Squad size for warriors? Load out?

[thereisonlywar]

Hey yo everybody. I’ve been trying write some lists for my nids while this codex is nice and fresh. I just was gifted another box of warriors which makes nine for me. What size squad is optimal? 3x3 1x9 6 and 3 what’s the thoughts? I’m rolling deAthspitters so far, should I just keep going?

[Jbizzy]

2 groups of 5 with both cannons is what I am planning

[pandaborg]

I don’t think there’s really a bad way to run warriors but the standard load out does seem to be boneswords and deathspitters just for a good mid range profile into most things. Plus as many venom cannons as you can fit, points allowing. Personally I am thinking of running my squads in 5s. You miss out on the second cannon but it’s the most efficient size for the -1 dmg strat as it goes to 2cp at 6 warriors. That said, 3 man’s are probably the premier troop slot fillers in the codex now so if you need to fill slots go for that. The 9 man also seems good to me but I think you really need to commit to making it survivable ie running leviathan, venomthropes, casting catalyst on them. For sure sounds like a scary mid board threat though and gives great efficiency on buying the per squad upgrades comparatively. On weapons I think 1 lash whip per squad for the ld strat is nice and deathspitters are prob just better than Devourers into most targets, and then you probably just max venom cannons where you can. Mass scytals also seems fine if you run reroll support for them.

Tl;dr you can’t really go wrong but for me I would do a 5-man, a 3-man and a prime, all with boneswords/deathspitters + venom cannons, with maybe a lash whip thrown in for the strat. The 6-man squad does get the extra cannon but I much refer 9, 5 or 3 for efficiency reasons.

[purestrain]

9 man levi warrior squad with 3 VC. Prime in non FOC with Hive predator for +1 hit.

either swarmy or a HT for rerolls hits, or reroll 1s. Primes rr1s to wound.

Levi spell for Primes imperative of exploding 6s when shooting within 24" (deathspitter range)

1cp Pathogenic slime for auto hitting 6s in shooting.

[piersonsmuppet]

Apr 16, 2022 23:56:16 GMT purestrain said:

9 man levi warrior squad with 3 VC. Prime in non FOC with Hive predator for +1 hit.

either swarmy or a HT for rerolls hits, or reroll 1s. Primes rr1s to wound.

Levi spell for Primes imperative of exploding 6s when shooting within 24" (deathspitter range)

1cp Pathogenic slime for auto hitting 6s in shooting.

Definitely want swarmy for this to rr all non 6’s.

[N.I.B.]

3x3 is great. 2x5 is great. 1x9 is great.

[infornography]

Honestly, I am leaning towards 1 9 man and 2 3 man squads.

A 9 man warrior squad is a powerful unit capable of dealing with most things this game can throw at you.
Boneswords are pretty much a given because there isn't much that they are not good at dealing with. Adrenal Glands and Toxin Sacs are absolutely worth it on a 9 man. Fleshhooks depending on what kind of terrain you usually play with. The second weapon slot can either be more boneswords or Deathspitters and cannons. All depends on if you want them to be dedicated melee or you want some powerful ranged punch.

3 mans are great for backfield babysitting and low cost but still effective objective holders. Definitely should take both cannons (assuming it remains allowed). Deathspitters and boneswords as well. AG, TS, and FH are less of a good deal on the smaller unit size.

Long story short, it really depends on what you are needing your warriors to do. Do you want them to be the main thrust of your offensive push or do you want them to providing point defense, baby sitting, and objective holding?

[beetlejuice]

Apr 17, 2022 14:31:50 GMT infornography said:

Honestly, I am leaning towards 1 9 man and 2 3 man squads.

A 9 man warrior squad is a powerful unit capable of dealing with most things this game can throw at you.
Boneswords are pretty much a given because there isn't much that they are not good at dealing with. Adrenal Glands and Toxin Sacs are absolutely worth it on a 9 man. Fleshhooks depending on what kind of terrain you usually play with. The second weapon slot can either be more boneswords or Deathspitters and cannons. All depends on if you want them to be dedicated melee or you want some powerful ranged punch.

3 mans are great for backfield babysitting and low cost but still effective objective holders. Definitely should take both cannons (assuming it remains allowed). Deathspitters and boneswords as well. AG, TS, and FH are less of a good deal on the smaller unit size.

Long story short, it really depends on what you are needing your warriors to do. Do you want them to be the main thrust of your offensive push or do you want them to providing point defense, baby sitting, and objective holding?

flesh hooks is a given for any 5+ unit looking to get into melee for impaling hooks strat for +1 to hit

[Bohxim]

Some what related; if I bring a prime to run along with my warriors so I can use the 2 Leviathan units in engagement range of a unit strategem, and I decide to bring reaper relic on him, what does it actually mean 1 mortal wound per successful wound?
Is this after rolling the wound rolls? Or does the unit need to fail the save rolls first to be counted a successful wound?
My Google-fu isn't turning up much useful info, prob due to how large 40k is.

[purestrain]

Apr 17, 2022 21:30:07 GMT Bohxim said:

Some what related; if I bring a prime to run along with my warriors so I can use the 2 Leviathan units in engagement range of a unit strategem, and I decide to bring reaper relic on him, what does it actually mean 1 mortal wound per successful wound?
Is this after rolling the wound rolls? Or does the unit need to fail the save rolls first to be counted a successful wound?
My Google-fu isn't turning up much useful info, prob due to how large 40k is.

"2. WOUND ROLL

Each time an attack scores a hit against a target unit, make a wound roll for that attack by rolling one D6 to see if that attack successfully wounds the target. The result required is determined by comparing the attacking weapon’s Strength (S) characteristic with the target’s Toughness (T) characteristic, as shown on the following table:"

[Bohxim]

Thanks purestrain! I get it now!

[thereisonlywar]

So I’ve put together this list. Probably going to make a few more. And have to do a 1000 point game this weekend. Thoughts and recommendations. I’m up against necrons
++ Patrol Detachment 0CP (Tyranids) [22 PL, 410pts, 11CP] ++

+ Configuration +

Battle Size [12CP]: 3. Strike Force (101-200 Total PL / 1001-2000 Points)

Detachment Command Cost

Hive Fleet: Leviathan

+ HQ +

Winged Hive Tyrant [11 PL, 205pts, -1CP]: Adrenal Glands, Lash Whip and Monstrous Bonesword, Power: Onslaught, Power: Paroxysm, Power: Smite, Relic: The Reaper of Obilterax, Stratagem: Alpha Leader-Beast, Warlord, Warlord Trait: Swarm Leader

+ Troops +

Gargoyles [4 PL, 80pts]
. 10x Gargoyle: 10x Fleshborer

+ Fast Attack +

Mawloc [7 PL, 125pts]: Toxinspike

++ Patrol Detachment -2CP (Tyranids) [32 PL, 557pts, -2CP] ++

+ Configuration +

Detachment Command Cost [-2CP]

Hive Fleet: Leviathan

+ No Force Org Slot +

Tyrant Guard [8 PL, 120pts]
. 3x Tyrant Guard (Scything): 3x Two Rending Claws, 3x Two Scything Talons

+ HQ +

Hive Tyrant [9 PL, 175pts]: Heavy Venom Cannon, Lash Whip and Monstrous Bonesword, Power: Catalyst, Power: Hive Nexus, Power: Onslaught, Power: Smite

+ Troops +

Termagants [8 PL, 112pts]: Fleshborer, 16x Termagant

+ Elites +

Zoanthropes [7 PL, 150pts]: 3x Zoanthrope

++ Patrol Detachment -2CP (Tyranids) [53 PL, 1,030pts, -3CP] ++

+ Configuration +

Detachment Command Cost [-2CP]

Hive Fleet: Leviathan

+ Stratagems +

Hive Predator [-1CP]: Extra Warlord Trait

+ No Force Org Slot +

Tyranid Prime [5 PL, 85pts]: Lash Whip and Bonesword, Venom Cannon, Warlord Trait: Direct Guidance

+ HQ +

Neurothrope [5 PL, 100pts]: Power: Hive Nexus, Power: Paroxysm, Power: Smite

The Swarmlord [11 PL, 220pts]: Power: Hive Nexus

+ Troops +

Tyranid Warriors [12 PL, 265pts]: Adrenal Glands, Toxin Sacs
. Tyranid Warrior: Deathspitter, Dual Boneswords
. Tyranid Warrior: Deathspitter, Dual Boneswords
. Tyranid Warrior: Deathspitter, Dual Boneswords
. Tyranid Warrior: Deathspitter, Dual Boneswords
. Tyranid Warrior: Deathspitter, Dual Boneswords
. Tyranid Warrior: Deathspitter, Dual Boneswords
. Tyranid Warrior: Lash Whip and Bonesword, Venom Cannon
. Tyranid Warrior: Lash Whip and Bonesword, Venom Cannon
. Tyranid Warrior: Lash Whip and Bonesword, Venom Cannon

+ Elites +

Pyrovores [4 PL, 60pts]
. 2x Pyrovore: 2x Acid Maw, 2x Bludgeoning Fists, 2x Flamespurt

Venomthropes [5 PL, 105pts]
. 3x Venomthrope: 3x Toxic Lashes

+ Heavy Support +

Exocrine [11 PL, 195pts]: Adaptive Physiology: Dermic Symbiosis

++ Total: [107 PL, 6CP, 1,997pts] ++

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