Questions about a few Stratagems

[shadowfinder]

My first question is about Shared Lure.

Does this work on every target they unit or models shoots at? Say a unit of warriors vs say a Thornback Carfex with Strangle thorn and two death-spitters.

From my understanding the Warrior unit trigger only one unit for the reroll. Since only one model from the unit is used not the whole unit.

But the Fex can trigger up to three units. One for each gun. Is this correct?

IF the fex is correct. What other units have +2 guns on it that can use this stratagem to full effect?

2nd Question is about: Encircle the pray.

Can this be used turn one it say you can't use it the turn the unit is set up one the Battlefield?

Also can this be used if your unit is in combat?

Thinking a large unit of raveners hitting turn one than jumping out to safety.

3rd Stratagem Opportunistic Advance. Would I be correct is saying the works on overrun as well. This stratagem changes your move by adding 8" until the end of the turn.

Overrun if you destroy a unit you move like normal move correct.?
Can you advance on a normal move? Does the +8 stay since the stratagem say end of turn.

Wanting to make sure I am not missing a combo.

[purestrain]

Apr 5, 2022 15:55:53 GMT shadowfinder said:

My first question is about Shared Lure.

Does this work on every target they unit or models shoots at? Say a unit of warriors vs say a Thornback Carfex with Strangle thorn and two death-spitters.

From my understanding the Warrior unit trigger only one unit for the reroll. Since only one model from the unit is used not the whole unit.

But the Fex can trigger up to three units. One for each gun. Is this correct?

IF the fex is correct. What other units have +2 guns on it that can use this stratagem to full effect?

2nd Question is about: Encircle the pray.

Can this be used turn one it say you can't use it the turn the unit is set up one the Battlefield?

Also can this be used if your unit is in combat?

Thinking a large unit of raveners hitting turn one than jumping out to safety.

3rd Stratagem Opportunistic Advance. Would I be correct is saying the works on overrun as well. This stratagem changes your move by adding 8" until the end of the turn.

Overrun if you destroy a unit you move like normal move correct.?
Can you advance on a normal move? Does the +8 stay since the stratagem say end of turn.

Wanting to make sure I am not missing a combo.

1. It has to be a synapse unit, you could with a thornback, but it would need an AP. also its done by models within a unit, so if you splitfire say a 3 man warrior squad into 3 different targets and hit them all, you would have shard lure on all 3 units you hit

2. Deploying your units t1 is done before the game starts, so you can use it to have anything that can make it up the field that has FLY or Death from Below use it at end of turn Even within engagement range.

3. A normal move is just that, a normal move. you have to declare that a unit is advancing and therefor is not making a normal move. you cannot advance with overrun

[N.I.B.]

Apr 5, 2022 16:36:01 GMT purestrain said:

Apr 5, 2022 15:55:53 GMT shadowfinder said:

My first question is about Shared Lure.

Does this work on every target they unit or models shoots at? Say a unit of warriors vs say a Thornback Carfex with Strangle thorn and two death-spitters.

From my understanding the Warrior unit trigger only one unit for the reroll. Since only one model from the unit is used not the whole unit.

But the Fex can trigger up to three units. One for each gun. Is this correct?

IF the fex is correct. What other units have +2 guns on it that can use this stratagem to full effect?

1. It has to be a synapse unit, you could with a thornback, but it would need an AP. also its done by models within a unit, so if you splitfire say a 3 man warrior squad into 3 different targets and hit them all, you would have shard lure on all 3 units you hit

I don't think you can use Shard Lure once for multiple targets.

Use this Stratagem in your Shooting phase, when a ranged attack made by a model in a <HIVE FLEET> SYNAPSE unit from your army scores a hit against an enemy unit.

As I read it, multiple targets require multiple 'when' as you resolve the different targets one by one. And since you can't cast the same strat twice in the same phase, no.

[piersonsmuppet]

Apr 5, 2022 17:48:31 GMT N.I.B. said:

I don't think you can use Shard Lure once for multiple targets.

Use this Stratagem in your Shooting phase, when a ranged attack made by a model in a <HIVE FLEET> SYNAPSE unit from your army scores a hit against an enemy unit.

As I read it, multiple targets require multiple 'when' as you resolve the different targets one by one. And since you can't cast the same strat twice in the same phase, no.

This is correct, shard lure only affects the unit which the hit roll was scored at the time of strat use.

[niiai]

Yeah. Shard Lure is written so it only affects one enemy unit. Although you can split fire with your warriors if you want /need.

[dkng]

Opportunistic Advance works only in Movement phase:
„Use this Stratagem in your Movement phase...”
„until the end of the phase, add 8" to the Move characteristic...”

Overrun works in fight phase:
„Use this Stratagem at the end of the Fight phase. ”