Leviathan Psychic Power: Hive Nexus

[Bohxim]

still looking through the leaked stuff to get some ideas on list builds. and i've noticed a weird phrase in the Leviathan psychic power, Hive Nexus.
based on the leak, this is the exact wording;

"Blessing: Hive Nexus has a warp charge value of 7, If manifested, select 1 friendly Leviathan unit within Synaptic Link range of this Psyker and select 1 Synaptic Imperative Ability of a friendly Leviathan Synapse model that is also within Synaptic link range of this psyker. Until the start of your next turn, that unit benefits from that synapse model's Synaptic Imperative ability as if it was active for your army (in addition to the one that is currently active for your army) and as if they were within 6" of one another."

the first bolded portion stats that the unit can benefit from the Synaptic Imperative of the Synapse model in addition to the one currently active, which mitigates 1 synaptic imperative per battle round limitation. then, not to be a super rule-lawyer, but that 2nd bolded portion "and as if they were within 6" of one another" seems to imply that both the unit and model benefits from it, since the synaptic imperative is an aura-like ability that benefits friendlies within 6".

Example. taking a Malaceptor's Psychic oversight and giving it to a Warrior squad within synaptic link range, then both the warrior and malaceptor benefits from the ability as the warriors are synapse, gets the synaptic imperative ability and the malaceptor acts as if within 6" of the warriors, so both can perform actions and shoot/cast psychic spells.

i'm thinking if this is the RAI, since if they did not need to include that last portion if they just wanted the 1st unit to get the benefit of the synaptic imperative.

might be a little cheesy, but thoughts? 

[jesses]

Not quite how it works.

- You choose a unit, which doesn't have to be a SYNAPSE unit (just LEVIATHIN).

- You then choose a Synaptic Imperative ability for a unit within Link range and that is not currently active.

- The original LEVIATHIN unit selected benefits from that SI ability as if it was active (in addition to the one currently active), and they don't need to be within 6" of the unit they are benefiting from the SI of.

The selected unit is not emanating the ability, just benefiting from it. So say you have a Haruspex unit, a Tyranid Warriors unit, and a Zoanthrope unit.

At the beginning of the round you select the Zoanthropes SI 'Warp Shielding' to be active, giving out a 4++ to that Haruspex as long as it is within 6" of a Synapse unit.

Then on your turn the Zoanthropes cast Hive Nexus. You select the Haruspex as the target, and borrow the Tyranid Warrior's 'Goaded to Slaughter'.

The Haruspex now has a 4++ as long as it is within 6" of a Synapse unit and exploding 6s anywhere it goes for the duration of Hive Nexus (which I assume is until your next Psychic Phase but I didn't check).

The Zoanthropes do not emit both SI's, they are just granting the Warrior's SI to the Haru.

[N.I.B.]

I think was included to allow non-synapse units to benefit from Hive Nexus.

[dc0315]

I think what he is trying to say is:

1 zoanthrope unit
1 neurothrope
1 warrior unit
1 prime
1 haruspex.

Haruspex is within 6" of the tyranid prime

• Command phase i make the zoanthrope SI active.

•Psychic phase i cast Hive Nexus with the Neurothrope. And choose to make the warrior SI active on the tyranid prime.

•Now aside from the Tyranid Prime getting both the Zoanthrope and Warrior SI, the Haruspex also would get both, since the warrior SI is being emitted by the prime which currently has it due to Hive Nexus since he is a synapse unit.

[garg]

In the first bolded part the crucial words "that unit" were not bolded.
benefits from that synapse model's Synaptic Imperative ability.
In the second part it says nothing about the SI being active for other units.
The bit about 6" is so people don't say it's active for that unit but there is no synapse within 6" therefore it does not count.

[N.I.B.]

Apr 5, 2022 11:49:57 GMT dc0315 said:

Haruspex is within 6" of the tyranid prime

• Command phase i make the zoanthrope SI active.

•Psychic phase i cast Hive Nexus with the Neurothrope. And choose to make the warrior SI active on the tyranid prime.

•Now aside from the Tyranid Prime getting both the Zoanthrope and Warrior SI, the Haruspex also would get both, since the warrior SI is being emitted by the prime which currently has it due to Hive Nexus since he is a synapse unit.

Doesn't work. The prerequisite for Synaptic Imperatives to transfer to HIVE TENDRIL units within 6" of the SYNAPSE model, is that the Imperative must be active for your army. Which isn't the case with Hive Nexus.

[Bohxim]

That's why I was confused and thought this discussion would be healthy. But seems more clear now

[purestrain]

Fantastic use for it is to give a big blob of warriors their primes Imperative every turn. a 9man squad with reroll wounds of 1 and Direct guidance from a prime+ a HT within link range giving reroll hits of 1 make them super nasty and will crush a lot of targets.

[acehilator]

Big blob of Warriors need the Zoanthrope Imperative every turn. Otherwise they will just melt.

[Bohxim]

Though I'd probably use malaceptor's imperative on them for advance, action then shoot. Keeps them mobile and active while doing objectives. Esp if there's no good targets 12" from malaceptor.