Build your own hive fleet

[acehilator]

Looks like it's possible after all. The relevant page is missing from the original leak. The Tyranid Discord has an updated version in the pinned messages, adding in the last missing pages (looks to be 100% complete now).

Check it out. Essentially it kind of works like Successor Chapters for SM.

[niiai]

It is pick one thing from green, purple or yellow. One is your primary. You can change you secondary from something on the list you did not pick. No?

[Jbizzy]

Isn't it mix and match one ability from Lurk, Hunt and feed?

[piersonsmuppet]

Losing a fleet WLT, Power known by all pskyers, relic, and stratagem seems a steep price to pay for how okay all of the Lurk, Feed, Hunt morphologies are.

[niiai]

Keep in mind all hive fleets can choose from two lists already. So if you want to build around one you can without loosing the hive fleet bonuses. Instead you really want to build around two of them to give up the hive fleet bonuses.

To be fair those bonuses are a psykick power, a warlord trait, a relic and a stratagem. Rarely are all of those four super strong. But two in each unit is usually OK, so that is what you are giving up.

If you come up with enough streamlined things perhaps it makes sence. Say you wanne build around melee monsters. Take objective secure monsters and +1 to charge. Or something similar. There are 3 sets of five. I am sure one of the 75 combinations are playable.

[jesses]

Custom Hive Fleets are as follows:

- You choose two Biomorphologies. They must be from different tables (Hunt, Lurk, and Feed).

- Choose which is your Adaptive trait, the one that can be swapped out.

- At the beginning of the game you can swap out your Adaptive trait for any option from the 3rd table you didn't choose from at the beginning.

Imho, this is almost never worth it. Not only do you lose out on the Fleet specific Relic, Strat, and Warlord Trait, but you also kinda get shafted on the Adaptive. All of the Hive Fleets get two tables to pick from, but the custom Fleet only gets to choose from one table.

[hivefleetkerrigan]

jesses thanks for posting the rules! I missed out on them in the leaks.

Probably not worth it for competitive but it could be fun for narrative.

[piersonsmuppet]

Mar 31, 2022 1:22:03 GMT hivefleetkerrigan said:

Probably not worth it for competitive but it could be fun for narrative.

After taking another look at the Custom Fleet rules and the 3 tables, it could have a place in a meta dominated by two factions that the custom fleet traits play well into. I could see a custom fleet with Territorial Instincts for Primary and Ambush Predators as the alternate being very good for combating aggressive melee armies. When a castling shooty army is across the table, swap to wreathed in shadows. As was said previous, you realistically only lose 1-2 of the 4 Splinter Fleet exclusives. I don't think you'd normally want to give up the Splinter Fleet powers, but I could see Custom Fleets giving us better ability to make meta-counters for competitive play. The choice seems like an even bigger gamble than usual for counter-picking the meta though, but the greater the risk the greater the reward... right?

[jesses]

If you have a small group you play with, like a dedicated club, sure. I can see that working out pretty well. If you know you are always fighting 1 of 3 books the opportunity cost is much smaller. I play in a league in a big city though, so it's mostly players I don't know or have only played once before. Losing out on half my swap options seems like a bad idea.

[trashcan01]

Nah... I'll skip it. I have yet to figure out how to work it in my lists, but you end up with a weaker version of the originals as the original static Hives are too good to pass up. 


It would be nice if they made it that you choose a primary Fleet (e.g. Leviathan) and then choose the custom traits for your Splinter Custom tendril.
As in, long long time ago you were Leviathan, and despite the evolution you keep the relic and stratagem, but the rest is all custom.

[dkng]

Mar 30, 2022 23:07:30 GMT acehilator said:

Looks like it's possible after all. The relevant page is missing from the original leak. The Tyranid Discord has an updated version in the pinned messages, adding in the last missing pages (looks to be 100% complete now).

Check it out. Essentially it kind of works like Successor Chapters for SM.

All the new rules are updated on a page starting with „w” and ending with „ahapedia”