Toxicrene Vs transhuman

[exlo89]

Hi guys, how does the Toxicrene rule work (wounds at 2+ everything that is not vehicle or titanic) against enemies that have the rule you only hurt them with a fixed result, for example at 4+?

[niiai]

Transhuman (and similar rules) states that they ignore any rule that would push the wounding past the transhuman limit. So transhuman Winns.

[bolk]

Well, you have that, but you also have the "Attacker's Priority" section in the Rulebook on page 362 under "Rare Rules".
Note that Transhuman is a much later rule though.

[niiai]

Transhuman:

"Use this Stratagem in any phase, when a PRIMARIS unit from your army is selected as the target of an attack. Until the end of the phase, each time an attack is made against that unit, an unmodified wound roll of 1-3 for that attack fails, irrespective of any abilities that the weapon or the model making the attack may have. If that unit contains 5 or fewer models, this Stratagem costs 1CP; otherwise, it costs 2CP."

"irrespective of any abilities that the weapon or the model making the attack may have." overwrites that. This is how every one is laying the bailaty with the same name. Do not confuse people bolk.

[bolk]

I do not aim to confuse, but I'm putting out all the facts on the table. If anything, it's GW that aim to confuse people it seems.

But yes, I agree Transhuman seem to overrule the Attacker's Priority rule.

Just because "everyone" is doing something one way, doesn't necessarily make it correct.

[jesses]

Transhuman wins this one. It has a clause saying it overrides other rules and abilities, Toxicrene doesn't. Clear hierarchy so Attacker's Priority never comes into play.

[piersonsmuppet]

Mar 28, 2022 12:33:19 GMT jesses said:

Transhuman wins this one. It has a clause saying it overrides other rules and abilities, Toxicrene doesn't. Clear hierarchy so Attacker's Priority never comes into play.

I don't think the Attacker's Priority ever comes into play. Most, if not all, Transhuman-like abilities have the "irrespective" portion.