New Stealer Stats from Box

[jesses]

From Reddit: i.redd.it/ylweb254bnl81.jpg

[swarm492]

Not saying I'm surprised, would have really loved that unified profile though.

[hivemind03]

I figured they would remove scything talons as an option.

[gigasnail]

Is that -3AP? what was it before?

Base weapon consolidation?

[purestrain]

Mar 6, 2022 2:06:14 GMT gigasnail said:

Is that -3AP? what was it before?

Base weapon consolidation?

was ap-1 and 6s were ap-4, now they're like pures with ap-3 1d but hit on 3s instead of 2s which makes me think they'll be 15 max instead of 10

Either that or because Broodlord is easy to bring they'll  be 10 man units

[gigasnail]

Oh that's right. Interesting changes.

Thanks.

[hivemind03]

I can't imagine them going to elite and going down to 10 max. So many people have 60+. It would be upsetting.

[r34dy5t34dydr4w]

Mar 6, 2022 2:35:48 GMT hivemind03 said:

I can't imagine them going to elite and going down to 10 max. So many people have 60+. It would be upsetting.

Welcome to GW making arbitrary changes for no discernable reason.  This shouldn't be news to you or anyone who has played through a few editions, though. 

[purestrain]

Mar 6, 2022 3:01:38 GMT r34dy5t34dydr4w said:

Mar 6, 2022 2:35:48 GMT hivemind03 said:

I can't imagine them going to elite and going down to 10 max. So many people have 60+. It would be upsetting.

Welcome to GW making arbitrary changes for no discernable reason.  This shouldn't be news to you or anyone who has played through a few editions, though. 

that depends on stratagems and abilites of the units in question.

If they have access to the +1 A strat that horms do having them capped at 10 makes sense. they also have an infiltrate so allowing 60 models to be 9-12" away from their front lines with an 8+d6 movement seems supremely oppressive 

[jesses]

I was very surprised to see the 3+ instead of the 2+ like Pures have. I thought GW was trying to unify profiles that show up in multiple books.

[ausnid]

I was actually hoping they wouldnt make them the same as the purestrain. I like the idea of the hive fleet being able to spawn them as needed but not with the refinements/external gene pool of cult - for this reason I am hoping they also keep them troops for a nid army.

[omnivore]

Is it just me or is Genoraptor a waaaay cooler name 😆

[purestrain]

Mar 6, 2022 6:01:50 GMT ausnid said:

I was actually hoping they wouldnt make them the same as the purestrain. I like the idea of the hive fleet being able to spawn them as needed but not with the refinements/external gene pool of cult - for this reason I am hoping they also keep them troops for a nid army.

they aren't staying troops, and a broodlord will augment them, we just dont know how yet, but more than likely its keeping the +1 hit aura for them.

[terminatoruk]

The only thing we don’t know here is if they are getting a 4++ invulnerable save.

I like that they are 4 attacks base though - was annoying having the 10 model requirement to achieve that previously.

Edit - and if they still have advance and charge obviously.  Also noticed they have lost 1Ld too (Ld8 vs 9 previously).

[trashcan01]

All in all, I welcome the universal -3AP.
I like that the statline isn't the same as Purestrain Genestealer Cults as ours are brand new babies, spawned for the battle and hopping back in the digestion pool at the end of round 5.
I'm still hoping that they stay as Troop choice or at least a <CORE> unit, keeping them open for more combos with strats and auras etc.