First real atempt at 9th edition GSC.

[niiai]

First atempt at new list. It is based on the old 8th edion codex list i ran. That one has to cut very low on characters to fit inn enough scary troops. Supprice supprice I do not have the points for all the sweet toys here either.

Deploy two Goliath and 2 transports on the field. 1 truck with acolytes, 1 with purestrains. Have 6 ridgerunners shooting backup. One unit of purestrains with they came from below to threaten turn 1 charges.

Have Neophytes come on and shoot with the wound on 6 stratagem. They have 5+++ from biomagus.

2 small units of acolytes to trigger exposed (one of them with lying in wait and demo charges.)

1 big acolytes with a trap is sprung to get that chargec. Biomagus and possible Iconward deploy with these. Magus goes where they please.


++ Battalion Detachment 0CP (Tyranids - Genestealer Cults - 2022) [100 PL, 12CP, 1,999pts] ++

+ Configuration +

Battle Size [12CP]: 3. Strike Force (101-200 Total PL / 1001-2000 Points)

Cult Creeds: Industrial Affinity, Martial +2, Myriad Cults, War Convoy

Detachment Command Cost

+ No Force Org Slot +

Biophagus [3 PL, 55pts]: Alchemist Supreme

+ HQ +

Acolyte Iconward [4 PL, 75pts]

Magus [4 PL, 80pts]: Warlord

+ Troops +

Acolyte Hybrids [6 PL, 148pts]
. 5x Acolyte Hybrid w/ Hand Flamer: 5x Blasting Charges, 5x Cult Claws and Knife, 5x Frag Grenades, 5x Hand Flamer
. Acolyte Hybrid w/ Industrial Weapon: Heavy Rock Drill
. Acolyte Hybrid w/ Industrial Weapon: Heavy Rock Drill
. Acolyte Hybrid w/ Industrial Weapon: Heavy Rock Drill
. Acolyte Hybrid w/ Industrial Weapon: Heavy Rock Drill
. Acolyte Leader: Cult Claws and Knife, Hand Flamer

Acolyte Hybrids [10 PL, 237pts]: A Trap Sprung
. 8x Acolyte Hybrid w/ Hand Flamer: 8x Blasting Charges, 8x Cult Claws and Knife, 8x Frag Grenades, 8x Hand Flamer
. Acolyte Hybrid w/ Industrial Weapon: Heavy Rock Cutter
. Acolyte Hybrid w/ Industrial Weapon: Heavy Rock Cutter
. Acolyte Hybrid w/ Industrial Weapon: Heavy Rock Cutter
. Acolyte Hybrid w/ Industrial Weapon: Heavy Rock Cutter
. Acolyte Hybrid w/ Industrial Weapon: Heavy Rock Cutter
. Acolyte Hybrid w/ Industrial Weapon: Heavy Rock Cutter
. Acolyte Leader: Cult Claws and Knife, Hand Flamer

Acolyte Hybrids [3 PL, 57pts]
. Acolyte Hybrid
. 3x Acolyte Hybrid w/ Hand Flamer: 3x Blasting Charges, 3x Cult Claws and Knife, 3x Frag Grenades, 3x Hand Flamer
. Acolyte Leader: Cult Claws and Knife, Hand Flamer

Acolyte Hybrids [4 PL, 87pts]: Lying in Wait
. 3x Acolyte Hybrid w/ Hand Flamer: 3x Blasting Charges, 3x Cult Claws and Knife, 3x Frag Grenades, 3x Hand Flamer
. Acolyte Hybrid w/ Industrial Weapon: 2x Demolition Charges
. Acolyte Leader: Cult Claws and Knife, Hand Flamer

Neophyte Hybrids [5 PL, 90pts]: Enhanced Resilience
. 7x Neophyte Hybrid w/ Shotgun: 7x Autopistol, 7x Blasting Charges, 7x Frag Grenades, 7x Shotgun
. Neophyte Hybrid wi/ Heavy Weapon: Seismic Cannon
. Neophyte Hybrid wi/ Heavy Weapon: Seismic Cannon
. Neophyte Leader: Shotgun

+ Elites +

Purestrain Genestealers [8 PL, 150pts]: 10x Purestrain Genestealer, They Came From Below

Purestrain Genestealers [7 PL, 140pts]: 10x Purestrain Genestealer

+ Fast Attack +

Achilles Ridgerunners [12 PL, 240pts]
. Achilles Ridgerunner: Flare Launcher, Heavy Mining Laser
. Achilles Ridgerunner: Flare Launcher, Heavy Mining Laser
. Achilles Ridgerunner: Flare Launcher, Heavy Mining Laser

Achilles Ridgerunners [12 PL, 240pts]
. Achilles Ridgerunner: Flare Launcher, Heavy Mining Laser
. Achilles Ridgerunner: Flare Launcher, Heavy Mining Laser
. Achilles Ridgerunner: Flare Launcher, Heavy Mining Laser

+ Heavy Support +

Goliath Rockgrinder [6 PL, 110pts]: Heavy Seismic Cannon

Goliath Rockgrinder [6 PL, 110pts]: Heavy Seismic Cannon

+ Dedicated Transport +

Goliath Truck [5 PL, 90pts]

Goliath Truck [5 PL, 90pts]

++ Total: [100 PL, 12CP, 1,999pts] ++

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[niiai]

First atemt went OK. I think I made some slight adjustments to the list. I played VS Death Guard without the points adjustments, witch put him at about 2080 points.

Some take aways:

GS are the champs. They are so good! They are fast enough to threaten a huge space. 4 attacks hitting on 2's is insane. If you take out a lot of bad attacks strong attacks suck VS 4++. In twisted helix they are S5, meaning they can also threaten T8.

Ridgerunners do not need to be in groups of 3 anymore. We used to do that to bundle stratagems and buffs ut it is no. Longer the case.

In order to get good shooting you need a small acollyte squad behind the objective. Crossfire is nice, but exposed is the real deal. Deploying within 6 was quite handy VS screening.

6 ridgerunners with mining lasers are very unreliable without exposed. My opponent beeing death guard did not help. Overloading fuel cells seemed a bit overkill.

Ridgerunners are fast and annoying. Good to hold points.

Blip deployment is so strong. I did the 2 cp move two tokens. It negated my opponents first turn fire from 1 blighthauler and 2 boosted contemtor dreadnoughts.

Roockgrinders are though and good. But the shooting is not great without exposed. Also, when you reach melee your shooting hits on 5+. I will be running them with flamers from now on.

Charging from deep strike with 3d6 is strong. But I boosted it with iconward. Would not have made it without him.

Iconward resurrection brought back almost his points in models from one blobby resurrection. (2 squads of purestrains, 1 squad of acolytes. Acolytes had died from transport exaplotion. Purestrains ran into melee turn 1 as he had first turn.)

The deploy within 3" of an enemy is good to fight objective secure. Very handy.

Twisted helix is very good. Speed and strength helps so many of our units. Mini transhuman came up a lot VS Death Guard as they push our T down.

Lastly, tings crumble a bit once thing do not have enough support.

I suspect most lists will do turn 1 some form of sett up. Turn 2 spring the trap.

If I did not spend so many points on transports I suspect Nexos with relic + clavmagus to allow units to perform actions and shoot to be very strong. Considering that combo is 100 points, and an naked acolyte squad is 45 you need bigger units to make it count.

I suspect some lists want to run brigades. 3 rockgrinders as the brigade 'tax'. 3 atelan jackals to pop around and hold objectives. This unlocks more then 6 troop slots. Our lists will either lean into troops or lean into troops and elites I suspect.

Anyway, here is the list I will atempt next time:


++ Battalion Detachment 0CP (Tyranids - Genestealer Cults - 2022) [114 PL, 11CP, 1,997pts] ++

+ Configuration +

Battle Size [12CP]: 3. Strike Force (101-200 Total PL / 1001-2000 Points)

Cult Creeds: The Twisted Helix

Detachment Command Cost

+ No Force Org Slot +

Biophagus [3 PL, 55pts]: Alchemist Supreme

+ HQ +

Acolyte Iconward [4 PL, 75pts]: Alien Majesty

Patriarch [7 PL, -1CP, 140pts]: Leaders of the Cult, Power: Mutagenic Deviation, Prowling Agitant, Warlord
. Elixir of the Prime Specimen: Enhanced Musculature, Enhanced Resilience

+ Troops +

Acolyte Hybrids [3 PL, 45pts]
. 4x Acolyte Hybrid: 4x Autopistol, 4x Blasting Charges, 4x Cult Claws and Knife, 4x Frag Grenades
. Acolyte Leader: Autopistol, Cult Claws and Knife

Acolyte Hybrids [3 PL, 45pts]
. 4x Acolyte Hybrid: 4x Autopistol, 4x Blasting Charges, 4x Cult Claws and Knife, 4x Frag Grenades
. Acolyte Leader: Autopistol, Cult Claws and Knife

Acolyte Hybrids [3 PL, 60pts]
. 4x Acolyte Hybrid w/ Hand Flamer: 4x Blasting Charges, 4x Cult Claws and Knife, 4x Frag Grenades, 4x Hand Flamer
. Acolyte Leader: Cult Claws and Knife, Hand Flamer

Acolyte Hybrids [3 PL, 60pts]
. 4x Acolyte Hybrid w/ Hand Flamer: 4x Blasting Charges, 4x Cult Claws and Knife, 4x Frag Grenades, 4x Hand Flamer
. Acolyte Leader: Cult Claws and Knife, Hand Flamer

Acolyte Hybrids [3 PL, 60pts]
. 4x Acolyte Hybrid w/ Hand Flamer: 4x Blasting Charges, 4x Cult Claws and Knife, 4x Frag Grenades, 4x Hand Flamer
. Acolyte Leader: Cult Claws and Knife, Hand Flamer

Neophyte Hybrids [9 PL, 104pts]: Enhanced Resilience, Lying in Wait
. 13x Neophyte Hybrid w/ Shotgun: 13x Autopistol, 13x Blasting Charges, 13x Frag Grenades, 13x Shotgun
. Neophyte Leader: Shotgun

+ Elites +

Aberrants [16 PL, 225pts]: A Trap Sprung
. 6x Aberrant: 6x Heavy Power Weapon
. Hypermorph: Heavy Power Weapon

Purestrain Genestealers [7 PL, 140pts]: 10x Purestrain Genestealer

Purestrain Genestealers [8 PL, 150pts]: 10x Purestrain Genestealer, They Came From Below

Purestrain Genestealers [7 PL, 140pts]: 10x Purestrain Genestealer

+ Fast Attack +

Achilles Ridgerunners [4 PL, 80pts]
. Achilles Ridgerunner: Achilles Missile Launcher, Flare Launcher

Achilles Ridgerunners [4 PL, 80pts]
. Achilles Ridgerunner: Achilles Missile Launcher, Flare Launcher

Atalan Jackals [3 PL, 48pts]
. Atalan Jackal: Atalan Small Arms
. Atalan Jackal: Atalan Small Arms
. Atalan Jackal: Atalan Small Arms
. Atalan Leader: Atalan Small Arms

+ Heavy Support +

Goliath Rockgrinder [6 PL, 110pts]: Clearance Incinerator

Goliath Rockgrinder [6 PL, 110pts]: Clearance Incinerator

+ Dedicated Transport +

Goliath Truck [5 PL, 90pts]

Goliath Truck [5 PL, 90pts]

Goliath Truck [5 PL, 90pts]

++ Total: [114 PL, 11CP, 1,997pts] ++

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[kazetanade]

Quick one - Iconward revive is only for CORE. So just Meta Aco Bikes Neophytes. GS and Abbys.

[niiai]

Thanks. Although abberants are also not core.

I also saw that I read raking fire wrong. I thought it only affected the machine guns, like before. But it affects all weapons. And that is quite huge. And a good incentive to run larger units of ridgerunners.

[kazetanade]

You're better off with the RRs in 1 unit, and having 2 units of bikes thereafter.

[niiai]

I did a game today vs my Ork opponent.

Second game with new codex. Twisted helix. I got first turn. Some weard dpeloyment (table quarters - the circle in the middle.) It is mostly a 1000 point misison, but we miss read it until it was to late. I got first turn.

- Mannaged to get 2 10 man units of GS into melee, and a rockgrinder. GS fought some big wagon and the squig riders. (He was snakebite, had 6 squig riders and 3 squig characters, including the HQ.) GS rolling S5 into T6 was not good. It was very underwhelming.

- Patriarch did suprisingly good. He is not a blender. But psyker + fighting is worth the 60 point upgrade over the magus in this case. The move 6 when charged made some charges difficult.

- Shotgun neophytes deploying within 3" to claim objective was very good. Since I managed to box him in turn 2, and beeing there. They needed some comitment to break up. I had 200 point of them, but that was far to much compared to what I got out of them.

- Goliaths where A+. So good for their points. Clearence incinerator fixed a lot of my problems with them when I ran the seismic cannon.

- Best unit in the army was the Abberants. I had a group of 6 with the 5++. They had 3d6 charging from deepstrike. They came in turn 2 and survived until turn 5. Since I pressed so much on points and started boxed in he did not have time to focus them down. They are so anoying!

- Small units of accolytes are great. Hand flamers to put down crossfire token and trigger exsposed. Small units without hand flamers to retrieve nachmund data.

- Engage on all fronts, retrieve Nachmund data and assassinate. He had 4 characters. The abberants charged his psyker last turn and killed the last assassin. Maybe my opponent played a bit bad. But he had inisiatives to kill things in melee (ork misison) and on this mission you got more points for taking objektives from the opponent.

- It was a hoot. Abberants where great, and twisted helix was great. 200 points and primus where shockinly bad. I wish I brought a magus instead.

Won on points in the end. He had 2 flyers, a gorkanaught and flashgits left. I had no models. Had 8 points more, around there.