New balance update

[brianb9999]

Boom…here it is

www.warhammer-community.com/2021/11/09/game-balance-is-at-the-heart-of-this-official-warhammer-40000-rules-update/

Max of 2 flyers in 2000 pt game, limiting Ork buggy nonsense, Admech and Drukhari point changes!

[infornography]

And don't overlook the russes getting a 2+ save!

[hivefleetkaiju]

Nov 9, 2021 16:31:17 GMT infornography said:

And don't overlook the russes getting a 2+ save!

Is that necessary?
Leman russ is already quite hard to beat

[zimko]

Drukhari got a lot of point changes. I expect them to shift to half raiders, half venoms now, and fewer wyches.

[purestrain]

Get rekt admech, from 6 to 9 ppm.

[purestrain]

Nov 9, 2021 16:31:17 GMT infornography said:

And don't overlook the russes getting a 2+ save!

Imperial Guard Leeman Russ though, not Brood brothers

Although you can strike first strike hard AND tank order a 3 man scout sentinel squad with las cannon.

[jimmicus]

Nov 9, 2021 17:08:38 GMT purestrain said:

Nov 9, 2021 16:31:17 GMT infornography said:

And don't overlook the russes getting a 2+ save!

Imperial Guard Leeman Russ though, not Brood brothers

Although you can strike first strike hard AND tank order a 3 man scout sentinel squad with las cannon.

It will be interesting to see the stat line of the Leman Russ in the GSC codex next month. Day 1 errata anyone?

[brianb9999]

Nov 9, 2021 16:54:01 GMT hivefleetkaiju said:

Nov 9, 2021 16:31:17 GMT infornography said:

And don't overlook the russes getting a 2+ save!

Is that necessary?
Leman russ is already quite hard to beat

Seems paper thin without an invuln if you’re a guard player

[bestaltan]

A good chunk of the list building here has been “Yea, but how does it beat Ork buggies”. Don’t have to worry about that anymore. 👍🏻

It will be interesting to see how the meta changes. I think it certainly helps the Bugs a lot, and hive guard just became even better without a single rule change.

[rakkagunmagus]

Lol okay, I haven't played much 40k recently, but what the heck is with the aircraft limitation? Did one faction break the game and they limited all of them? I don't remember many aircraft even being that good, mainly taken for flavor.

[bestaltan]

There has been an Ork build making the competitive rounds that makes flyers…….difficult.

[brianb9999]

Nov 9, 2021 19:41:49 GMT rakkagunmagus said:

Lol okay, I haven't played much 40k recently, but what the heck is with the aircraft limitation? Did one faction break the game and they limited all of them? I don't remember many aircraft even being that good, mainly taken for flavor.

Ork and ad mech flyers completely ruined the game at the competitive level. I have hated flyers since they debuted in 6th, they’ve never been balanced and were one of the reasons I stopped playing for a while. This change is a huge boon to tyranids

[rakkagunmagus]

That would make sense, guess their play testers didn't play test with fliers. I'm also trying to rationalize a blanket rule for the entire game, versus targeting one or two armies for a hotfix?

I was running harpies with friends, but we try to do matched play rules simply for "balance", this seems like pure laziness in terms of balance.

I'm not overly butthurt, just watching GW's execution of their game over the last few years has been a series of Stockholm syndrome episodes, or facepalms.

We're already placing bets on how quarterly these quarterly updates will actually be.

Really looking forward to a year or two from now, when the game is in a stable position. Right guys?

Edit: Wait, why didnt chaos get their wound increase yet? What the heck.

[acehilator]

Blanket nerfs are par for the course for GW, so the Aircraft fix is not surprising. The Ork buggy change is even more ham-fisted.


Nothing to see here, move along.

[brianb9999]

Nov 10, 2021 0:12:27 GMT rakkagunmagus said:

That would make sense, guess their play testers didn't play test with fliers. I'm also trying to rationalize a blanket rule for the entire game, versus targeting one or two armies for a hotfix?

I was running harpies with friends, but we try to do matched play rules simply for "balance", this seems like pure laziness in terms of balance.

I'm not overly butthurt, just watching GW's execution of their game over the last few years has been a series of Stockholm syndrome episodes, or facepalms.

We're already placing bets on how quarterly these quarterly updates will actually be.

Really looking forward to a year or two from now, when the game is in a stable position. Right guys?

Edit: Wait, why didnt chaos get their wound increase yet? What the heck.

Harpies/hive crones are not aircraft, so are not limited by the new rule. So spam away...up to 3 of each