Who Krumps harder?

[purestrain]

As the title asks, who krumps harder, a Behemoth Flyrant with +1 wound casted and Scythes of tyran +Warrior +1 hit link And Murderous size OR Flyrant with Levi Ingore Invuln Boneswords, Murderous size (Strat for fly non fly reroll hits and wounds of 1) 

[mattblowers]

As a stand alone I don't know the math. So in a vacuum it might be close. We don't play the game in a vacuum though and at this point Levi is hands down the best hive fleet, I don't think it's close. As a one off character maybe the behemoth, but then you lose the army to back him up. However, you could give him behemoth for one round (is Scythes of Tyran cult specific? I don't remember that).

[purestrain]

Oct 30, 2021 23:12:34 GMT mattblowers said:

As a stand alone I don't know the math. So in a vacuum it might be close. We don't play the game in a vacuum though and at this point Levi is hands down the best hive fleet, I don't think it's close. As a one off character maybe the behemoth, but then you lose the army to back him up. However, you could give him behemoth for one round (is Scythes of Tyran cult specific? I don't remember that).

Yeah the relic is Behe only. Its probably closer than I'd think but as you say being backed by hardened forces with decent hit and access to rerolls and spells is a much better buffer than just scary tyrant that slaps knights.

[No One]

It uhh...depends entirely on what you're going into: Levi is going to win against e.g. Zoans. But I feel fairly confident in saying that in general, SoT wins: +1 to wound and exploding 5s at S8 is very good into a lot of targets. And ignores invuls is just good with only AP-3. But voracious helps to close the gap from the S8/+1, has exploding 6s as well (and does have war on all fronts, but...eh, that's not something you're going to proc with a flyrant very often).

As above though, Behemoth doesn't do a whole lot for the rest of the army.

mattblowers said:

However, you could give him behemoth for one round (is Scythes of Tyran cult specific? I don't remember that).

The only thing from Behemoth you can give is rr charges, which...uhhh...no, don't do that.

[mattblowers]

Oct 31, 2021 2:42:13 GMT No One said:

As above though, Behemoth doesn't do a whole lot for the rest of the army.

mattblowers said:

However, you could give him behemoth for one round (is Scythes of Tyran cult specific? I don't remember that).

The only thing from Behemoth you can give is rr charges, which...uhhh...no, don't do that.

I agree overall, but it's a trick to have in your pocket if you need it. I can't think of a time when something else isn't better.