Leviathan competitive.

[soveliss]

++ Battalion Detachment 0CP (Tyranids) [115 PL, -2CP, 1,954pts] ++ +45 points (3 sinaptic ability)

STARTING CPS: 9CP


+ Configuration +

Detachment Command Cost

Hive Fleet: Leviathan

+ Stratagems +

Bounty of the Hive Fleet [-1CP]: 1 Extra Bio-artefact

Progeny of the Hive [-1CP]

+ HQ +

Broodlord [7 PL, 125pts]: Power: The Horror, Warlord, cp relic, swarm leader trait + second warlord strait (1cp)

Hive Tyrant [11 PL, 210pts]: 2x Monstrous Scything Talons, Adrenal Glands, Power: Psychic Scream, Warlord, Wings
. Adaptive Physiology: Murderous Size, -1 to be wounded relic

The Swarmlord [14 PL, 240pts]: Power: Catalyst, Power: Onslaught

+ Troops +

Genestealers [12 PL, 143pts]: 2x Acid Maw
. 11x Genestealer: 11x Rending Claws

Genestealers [12 PL, 143pts]: 2x Acid Maw
. 11x Genestealer: 11x Rending Claws

Termagants [9 PL, 147pts]
. 21x Termagant (Devourer): 21x Devourer

Tyranid Warriors [4 PL, 51pts]
. Tyranid Warrior: 2x Scything Talons
. Tyranid Warrior: 2x Scything Talons
. Tyranid Warrior: 2x Scything Talons

Tyranid Warriors [4 PL, 51pts]
. Tyranid Warrior: 2x Scything Talons
. Tyranid Warrior: 2x Scything Talons
. Tyranid Warrior: 2x Scything Talons

+ Elites +

Hive Guard [12 PL, 270pts]
. 6x Hive Guard (Impaler): 6x Impaler Cannon

Hive Guard [12 PL, 225pts]
. 5x Hive Guard (Impaler): 5x Impaler Cannon

Lictor [2 PL, 37pts]

Lictor [2 PL, 37pts]

+ Heavy Support +

Barbed Hierodule [14 PL, 275pts]
. Adaptive Physiology: Dermic Symbiosis

++ Total: [115 PL, -2CP, 1,954pts] ++



Thoughts: 
Sorry for my bad english i'll try what i can do =)
Ok guys i think strat, relic in combo with sinaptic abilities is just what we needed to become a 9th army.
Hive tyrant, i prefer to use the -1 to be wounded relic respect the bs invulnerable one, with t7 , 4+ inv and fnp6 is quite better to stay in the battleground more turns, giving the possibility to cast more mortal an charge what he need to charge.. The aircraft units, for example are suffering a lot of S7 ap -4 4 dmg, but also veichles, don't forget we have the 1cp reroll wound with him, also on t8 can be good too.
Genestealer, you can hide and use those unit to charge and attack objectives in combo with swarmlord ability
The second trait i'd like to choose for broodlord is strategic adaption, you can choose to send one unit of termagant and one of genestealers on strategic reserve if you will be the second one and you will lose your genestealer unit you still have the second on reserve with the devgant as dmg dealer, this allows you to don't give too much unit at first round and take the fire only on things that can resist a bit more than genoraptor and devgant preserving the list's alpha strike shot and geno charge.
Secondary: 
100% sure: Octarius + enemy list secondaries
candidates for the 3th: Friction, strangehold or maybe some psychic one is also to consider.

Anyway swarm leader and relentless flurry stratagems in my opinion are good also with genestealer, in case of any hive guards death the warriors can still give +1 to hit at geneastealer, it can be used also in fight phase by them.

Broodlord cover is lovely on Barbed hierodule, 1+ armor save even on fight phase (if you don't suffer a charge) is really good, you will save at 4+ on ap 3 weapons with a diabolic fnp at 6 and t8 18 wound fat boy. You will have also an invulnerable at 5 with the adaptive physyology, but the real weapon of this 5++ it's his x2 remainings wound rule!

Last but not the least hyper adaption strat is a good jolly that you can use to fall back and charge  ( using the kraken adapting), in some situation is really really useful and can gives you a lot of advantages...

You can do a lot of things with this, what are your thoughts hive minds? Is that diabolic enough, i think this is an hard list to play, in a competitive enviroment, i mean for the hard interations of command phase rule, psychic bonus and special abilities and stratagems. If you will forget something something can go on the (please do not swear) heaven.

Don't forget to let your genestealer brood to pray you all.

=)

[No One]

soveliss said:

The second trait i'd like to choose for broodlord is strategic adaption, you can choose to send one unit of termagant and one of genestealers on strategic reserve if you will be the second one and you will lose your genestealer unit you still have the second on reserve with the devgant as dmg dealer, this allows you to don't give too much unit at first round and take the fire only on things that can resist a bit more than genoraptor and devgant preserving the list's alpha strike shot and geno charge.

You can't double adapt and double WLT. Also not a fan of ever strategic reserving stealers, or 11 man stealers in general: very susceptible to losing models and sucking, and I'm not sure if they still have the output even with buffs.

[cmob208]

if you bump up to 12 man genestealer units you'll get an extra acid maw too which is nice.

[soveliss]

Oct 30, 2021 3:43:32 GMT No One said:

soveliss said:

The second trait i'd like to choose for broodlord is strategic adaption, you can choose to send one unit of termagant and one of genestealers on strategic reserve if you will be the second one and you will lose your genestealer unit you still have the second on reserve with the devgant as dmg dealer, this allows you to don't give too much unit at first round and take the fire only on things that can resist a bit more than genoraptor and devgant preserving the list's alpha strike shot and geno charge.

You can't double adapt and double WLT. 

 Why i can't play double adapt physiology and double trait with new alpha leader beast stratagem? 

 I have -3 cp from adaptive physiology, double relic , and double warlord trait.
 
 I have doubts on genestealer too, but with warlord trait and relenteless flurry (2cp) they can make the output. Btw i'll think to play 12 of them.

[No One]

To get 2 adapts, you have to give up a WLT, which means you can have max one WLT with alpha leader beast.

[soveliss]

Nov 2, 2021 15:08:09 GMT No One said:

To get 2 adapts, you have to give up a WLT, which means you can have max one WLT with alpha leader beast.

I am not sure to understand, i have a broodlord as warlord with swarm-leader free trait, and i want to use a second one using the alpha leader beast on him.

why i can't play two adapat physiology what is the connection i am missing? I am playing the adapt physiology on Hierodule and Hive Tyrant.

[zimko]

One adaptive physiology must replace a warlord trait. The other only requires 1 CP.

So if you take 2 warlord traits, then you can only take the extra adaptive physiology with a CP. In order to take 2 adaptive physiologies, you must replace 1 of the 2 warlord traits with it.

Thus you can only ever have at most 2 WLT and 1 Physiology, or 1 WLT and 2 Physiology.

[soveliss]

Okok i was searching for the adaptive physiology trait, i forget that. Thanks, anyway i think the barbed hierodule adaptive, maybe can be too much. I can easily cut it off but thanks!

The second unit of genestealer can be great to charge enemy unit in your battlefield zone, 6" on deployment edge also less 9" from the enemy in some case they can charge maybe also with broodlord bonus at 6". They can be useful on the third turn to take objective if swarmlord still alive.

The first unit can do some extra damage on first turn with double move double run and charge, with swarm leader reroll and stratagem 6 explodes, they can have a good dmg output. Maybe trying to take out some qg.