Leviathan list 1st draft

[connzee]

Hi folks, was directed to this thread by a guy called Tom at the Goonhammer open who I got to play against his lovely Tyranids with my grey knights.

With the new book and it nearly being the end of the year I’ve decided my last few tournaments I will be taking the hive mind to have a bit of fun, will me a local GT, Local RTT and then a major (Leicester GT) so I thought let’s try and have some fun with it.

First draft of the list is as follows:


++ Battalion Detachment 0CP (Tyranids) [105 PL, 2,000pts, 9CP] ++

+ Configuration +

Battle Size [12CP]: 3. Strike Force (101-200 Total PL / 1001-2000 Points)

Detachment Command Cost

Hive Fleet: Leviathan

+ Stratagems +

Bounty of the Hive Fleet [-1CP]: 1 Extra Bio-artefact

Progeny of the Hive [-1CP]

+ HQ +

Broodlord [8 PL, 140pts, -1CP]: Relic: Adaptive Neural Lobe, Stratagem: Alpha Leader-Beast, Synaptic Link: Mastery of the Shadows, Warlord, Warlord Trait: Strategic Adaptation, Warlord Trait: Swarm Leader

Hive Tyrant [11 PL, 225pts]: Power: Psychic Scream, Power: The Horror, Relic: Biomorphic Carapace, 2x Two Devourers with Brainleech Worms, Wings

+ Troops +

Genestealers [8 PL, 130pts]: 2x Acid Maw
. 10x Genestealer: 10x Rending Claws

Hormagaunts [6 PL, 72pts]
. 12x Hormagaunt: 12x Scything Talons

Termagants [9 PL, 175pts]
. 25x Termagant (Devourer): 25x Devourer

Termagants [3 PL, 50pts]
. 10x Termagant (Fleshborer): 10x Fleshborer

Termagants [3 PL, 50pts]
. 10x Termagant (Fleshborer): 10x Fleshborer

Tyranid Warriors [5 PL, 84pts]: Synaptic Link: Bioweapon Bond
. Tyranid Warrior: Deathspitter, Scything Talons
. Tyranid Warrior: Deathspitter, Scything Talons
. Tyranid Warrior: Deathspitter, Scything Talons

+ Elites +

Hive Guard [12 PL, 270pts]
. 6x Hive Guard (Impaler): 6x Impaler Cannon

Hive Guard [12 PL, 270pts]
. 6x Hive Guard (Impaler): 6x Impaler Cannon

Lictor [2 PL, 37pts]

Lictor [2 PL, 37pts]

Maleceptor [10 PL, 185pts]: Power: Catalyst, Power: Smite, Synaptic Link: Focal Essence

+ Heavy Support +

Barbed Hierodule [14 PL, 275pts]
. Adaptive Physiology: Dermic Symbiosis

++ Total: [105 PL, 2,000pts, 9CP] ++

Plan is to play defensive and just out shoot as much as possible using the hive guard and Hierodule. hierodule will get cover bonus to make it super hard to shift, also a prime target for catalyst. I think list will be good at Rod, stranglehold and a psychic secondary, it also has potential to take To the last which would be the 2 hive guard units and the barbed hierodule, but I usually leave my 3rd secondary to be decided depending on mission and matchup.

I think with all the ignore LOS shooting and movement tricks we can use denying primary is a really strong way to score, the list is also solid at scoring multiple secondaries at once (Engage & Rod).

Does anyone think there should be any changes I could make, another version of this list drops the Genestealer sand broodlord for a neurothrope loaded out in a similar way and a 6 man warrior squad with another +1 to hit, also taking a couple of venom cannons for some more mid range shooting.

[kazetanade]

Personally think GK is in a much stronger position than Leviathan Nids, but always glad to have someone new on the Hive!

Breaking down the new Supplement, there are some very key things we need to recognize:

The power tools of the supplement revolve around some very specific limited use buffs. That is Reroll All Hits and Tesla Effect.

When you put 2 HGs and 1 Barbed into the same fleet that all want the same buffs - recognizer that only 1 unit will output well, the other 2 will output a bit lacklustre in comparison.

A 3+ rr1s is about the same as a 2+ flat - and a 2+ rr1 is functionally the same as a 3+ rr all fails.

Going further, we have an increase damage/hit output from using Tesla on the HG, which amounts to 2 extra hits more* when rerolling everything compared to just Kronos rr1s.

The end result is actually that the single unit of HG will hit a bit heavier than it normally does - a few more hits than usual. The 2nd squad will perform on par or worse. Assuming we kept HGs on both sides of the pond is a great deal that helps a lot (ie Kronos and Levi pushing damage out).

Barbed doesn't benefit from Dense part of BLs ability - so it's an overglorified Jorm chaser. Boosting it's damage would work out better for us.

[cmob208]

Oct 27, 2021 21:28:05 GMT kazetanade said:

Barbed doesn't benefit from Dense part of BLs ability - so it's an overglorified Jorm chaser. Boosting it's damage would work out better for us.

Is it universally accepted that the Dense from Broodlord doesn't benefit 18+ W models? Looking at the explanation of Dense in the core rules, it's hard to tell if it's saying 18+W models can never benefit from Dense, or if it's just Dense as received from terrain features. I guess the rulebook isn't imagining dense coming from another source. I think you could also make the point that specific rules (the BL synaptic link) are over-riding general rules (dense) in this case.

[No One]

Broodlord dense doesn't work on monsters, so...it's pretty moot.