Here we go…..Leviathan list rough draft.

[bestaltan]

Just gonna write the bare bones of the list since BattleScribe won’t have new rules for a bit (at least I don’t think they do). I’ll eventually be taking this to tournaments too, so please rip it to shreds:

Leviathan battalion:

HQ:
—Swarmlord
—Tyranid prime—2x scything talons, synaptic link ability, double WLT

Troops:
—genestealers—17 models
—genestealers—16 models
—termagaunts—30 models, devourers
—termagaunts—30 models, fleshborers
—warriors—7 models—synaptic link, deathspitters, scything talons

Elites:
—hive guard—6 models
—lictor
—lictor
—maleceptor-synaptic link

Heavy:
—tyrannofex—acid spray

Secondaries:
—Strangehold
—ROD
—depends on mission

I got LOTS of models, so suggest away with alternatives.

[nidzy]

This is actually pretty close to what I came up with but I went double hive guard instead of the tfex. I am gonna play a couple of games with it this weekend and see how it goes.

[bestaltan]

Yea, I’m starting to really warm up to the double hive guard too. That just looks brutal on paper.

[No One]

As long as you've got the terrain and build to support it, it can definitely be pretty disgusting. You're quite vulnerable if people can get angles/charges on you though.

[bestaltan]

Most of the folks in my area are tournament players, so we play with the double L’s in the middle of the board that blocks all line of site. So 2 units of hive guard is pretty viable with smart placement around here……or at least with the redeployment warlord trait.

[bestaltan]

Ok, round 2 list. This one is primarily so I can take advantage of any psychic secondaries, which does give us more flexibility.

Leviathan:

HQ:
—Swarmlord
—Neurothrope—new psychic relic, double WLT (rerolls and redeploy)

Troops:
—genestealers—15 models
—genestealers—14 models
—devilgaunts—27 models
—warriors—3 models—deathspitters, synaptic link
—warriors—3 models—deathspitters, synaptic link

Elites:
—hive guard—6 models
—hive guard—6 models
—lictor
—lictor
—zoanthropes—6 models, synaptic link

[kazetanade]

I always do Lic/Lic/Rip to round out the points of those 3 awkwardly priced units.

Double HG is subsceptible pretty much just to out of LOS shooting from Ork Buggies, Planes moving like crud on them, and big cross-map charges. With Nids maybe being back on the board, you can maybe expect a lot of the latter, and considering mainstream Ork/AdM lists all play 3-5 planes, you can expect a lot of the 2nd as well. Your 2nd list is so light on screens - basically if they make it cross board, you're possibly screwed when they get a full wrap on 1 HG, touch on the other, and devilgant your Genestealers to death when it drops out of the sky. That mirror match is possibly super hostile.

It's otherwise legit - and I think zimko goes so far as to say that double HG is one of our better tools into the mirror matchup, although I am not as sure as he is - I'd rather a Barbed Heirodule in the mirror. But that's personal preference.

In the planes matchup, an Acidfex is completely worthless - S7 d3D means it's not wounding all that much, and when it does, it has a 66% chance of being 1D only, since both main Plane users have -1D vs their profile.

If you're doing double HG, I would advise against double Genestealers and the accompanying Swarmlord - play more defensive. You are looking to keep your side of the board topped up while artillery shelling the enemy's side. This is the ideal setup for ObSec Gargs that block enemy deployment zone/objectives, large/medium Warrior units, and a Maleceptor (Mals benefit T4 models the most, meaning this is where Zoeys and Warriors get off best when facing off non-melee armies). You want decently tanky throwaway units you can plop onto objectives and own them, without being too afraid of losing them to enemy shooting. When you have double HG and double Stealers, TOO MANY things want to hide, and will often take up all your available real estate - and either some things are left open, or some things are left too bunched up and subsceptible to that T1 disruption play that was plaguing the game back in begining of 9th ed.

If you want to be aggressive with the Swarmlord and multiple Genestealers, then tech for it - threat saturate vs the incoming storm of anti-infantry fire from GK/AdM/Orkz, bring the things that work with them well or threat saturate together with them. Bring a damn Super Flyrant for the Planes matchup so that you arent left to dry when it pops up. Bring. More. Devilgants!!!!

[bestaltan]

I like the idea of a defensive list. I actually toyed around with a Kronos defensive list about a year ago, so how about this:

Leviathan:

HQ:
—Broodlord—double WLT (rerolls and redeploy), synaptic link
—Hive tyrant—wings, two boneswords (relic upgrade), adrenal glands

Troops:
—gaunts—10 models
—gaunts—10 models
—gaunts—10 models
—devilgaunts—30 models
—warriors—9 models—deathspitters, lw/bs, synaptic link, enhanced resistance

Elites:
—hive guard—6 models
—hive guard—6 models
—lictor
—lictor
—Maleceptor—synaptic link
—venomthropes—3 models

Fast Attack:
Gargoyles—10 models
Gargoyles—10 models

Comes in at 1997 points. Should also be enough fodder to spread things out and minimize getting to me first turn.