Maleceptor? (Newbie question)

[beastoftanagra]

What do y’all experienced players think about the Maleceptor?
I really like the look of the model, but it seems too short ranged to be effective, and I haven’t seen a lot of lists or games on YouTube which actually use them.

[kazetanade]

Its good for 1 strategem. Also for 1 shotting Trajann. XD

Its overall not a great deal for what you get out of it, and is usable by only in fringe strategies. That strategy being a defensive one spreading -1S aura vs enemy guns.

[kubimaniac]

Oct 15, 2021 8:58:13 GMT kazetanade said:

Also for 1 shotting Trajann. XD

How does it do that?

[garg]

Maybe some lucky wounds and d6 damage. I played mine once (i now use the toxicrene more because it looks cooler) and it was a bit underwhelming. The best bit, my BA friend asked me

"what's it like in melee?"
"Not very good" i answered (thinking ws 4 and a few attacks)

I then proceeded to get one wound through and kill his sanguinary priest

😁

[vejby]

The stratagem is expensive too, and relatively easily replaced by fielding more models and not having to castle up. I used it a period, but the defensive ability does not stack up with the cost.

[bestaltan]

The great problem with the maleceptor is that it’s fair in a lot of phases, but not good at anything (a common trend throughout the codex).

It’s a psyker…..with only one spell.
It’s a monster……with only three attacks and no shooting.
At d6 damage, has a very swingy and unreliable melee weapon.
It has a special psychic rule…….that forces you to be incredibly close to your opponent and hands out very few mortal wounds.
It has a 4+ invul…….but at T 7 with a 3+ armor save, it’s going to constantly rely on that invul save.

In short, for everything that the maleceptor can do, there is another unit in the codex that can do it FAR better.

[topaxygourouni]

When Maleceptor sleeps at night, it dreams of becoming Mutalith Vortex Beast.

Maleceptor is 170 vs a Mutalith 145 pts
Statwise Mutalith has +3" movement, +2 wounds, 3+ WS.
Defense wise, maleceptor does have a better invuln save but Mutalith also heals d3 wounds every turn for free.
Offensively, Maleceptor is 3 attacks, WS 4+, -3, d6 with reroll 1's. Mutalith is 5 attacks ws 3+, -2, 3 and can sweep for 15 attacks -1 1.
Maleceptor has 2 casts and a unique ability but it has to forfeit its casting to use it and it's only 6" range. Mutalith knows 4 "powers" and can automatically cast 2 a turn, with no psychic test required, great range (18"/24"). its powers are used in the shooting phase but they are not attacks, which means it can fall back and still use them. They are also not deniable.

Mutalith has a 4+ explosion upon dying on top.

And here's the worst part: Mutalith isn't even considered a competitive option for the T.Sons.

[jimmicus]

I love my Maleceptor. Like you say the model is awesome and it is one of my better paint jobs (not saying much but hey). Game wise though it is well overpriced for what it does. Except that one time mine killed Mephiston with one swipe of its claw, bloody beautiful that was. Hopefully the next codex will beef him up but somehow i doubt it.

[infornography]

Poor Malceptor has been a poor unit ever since its kit came out and had a period where it would show up in lists for a strategem that didn't really help it much, but the units around it instead.

It suffers greatly from wanting to be near melee range but kinda sucking at melee. If they gave it decent melee stats and made its special psyker ability not an either or with using its regular psyker abilities (I mean, come on, its brain is big enough to do both) then it has the potential to be very good, but with its current statline and the weird way its ability interacts, it is a giant meh-burger.

[No One]

Even with new buffs, it's...still just as a support piece.

[mattblowers]

I love the look too!

Here's my review: I own 3; 2 are still in the box.

[omnivore]

I use mine as a smite battery. I take Psychic Scream and March it up the table blasting stuff with +1 to cast. I like it because besides being pretty durable for what I Want it to do its degradation table is irrelevant.

[No One]

'Cepter being nerfed to <Hive Fleet> even hurts as a support role.