40k lore now

[HiveFleetExotica]

Just wondering if anyone can catch me up on everything big that’s been going on lore wise I haven’t really paid attention since guilliman came back and I saw some YouTube videos about mortarion and Gulliman fighting and the emperor is actually coming back???

[infornography]

Well, I am not 100% up on everything, but since G-Man came back, the eye of terror got MUCH bigger and the newest black crusade is wrecking everything. Abaddon brought his last blackstone fortress back to the materium and flew it INTO Cadia to destroy the planet. Since then the crusade has been running amok and G-Man started the Indomitus crusade to push it back. The Primaris marines were constructed by Cawl and added to most space marine factions. Regular marines can now become primaris, Many have. The Custodes have largely left terra to fight in the Indomitus crusade. Mortarion joined forces with Abaddon and is causing trouble. G-Man is going to get up in his grill. Jain Zar killed Drazhar and it didn't stick. Drazhar killed Jain Zar and it didn't stick. Fabius Bile is getting up to some unspecified mischief and is persona non-grata with just about everyone. The Ynnarii have been strangely quiet for most of an edition.

I'm sure I missed some things...

[HiveFleetExotica]

Jun 30, 2021 13:13:22 GMT infornography said:

Well, I am not 100% up on everything, but since G-Man came back, the eye of terror got MUCH bigger and the newest black crusade is wrecking everything. Abaddon brought his last blackstone fortress back to the materium and flew it INTO Cadia to destroy the planet. Since then the crusade has been running amok and G-Man started the Indomitus crusade to push it back. The Primaris marines were constructed by Cawl and added to most space marine factions. Regular marines can now become primaris, Many have. The Custodes have largely left terra to fight in the Indomitus crusade. Mortarion joined forces with Abaddon and is causing trouble. G-Man is going to get up in his grill. Jain Zar killed Drazhar and it didn't stick. Drazhar killed Jain Zar and it didn't stick. Fabius Bile is getting up to some unspecified mischief and is persona non-grata with just about everyone. The Ynnarii have been strangely quiet for most of an edition.

I'm sure I missed some things...

anything new for tyranids I know there’s a hive fleet that’s actually guarding a planet for sum reason? It’s in the 8th edition codex and is there nothing new with irks because there getting a lot of new models

[infornography]

Nothing I know of. Like I said I am not 100% on all this and I look forward to someone who is more up on the lore coming in and filling in gaps.

Necrons got their silent king back from the void between galaxies.

Also Necrons have been up to some kind of shenanigans with the pillars that are supposed to suppress chaos. I don't know all the details there.

[purestrain]

Second hand info but I recall some guy on the 40k Facebook page said something to the effect of "I can see why they held back the release of the somethings, marines. Gulliman is supposed to get some God tier stuff"

Just kind-of remember it being there, or the MWG page, I can't recall

[mattblowers]

Jun 30, 2021 6:29:39 GMT HiveFleetExotica said:

Just wondering if anyone can catch me up on everything big that’s been going on lore wise I haven’t really paid attention since guilliman came back and I saw some YouTube videos about mortarion and Gulliman fighting and the emperor is actually coming back???

Easily. Everything you thought you knew about lore turns out to be an illusion. It was all a ruse from the Lord of Change to make things appear different from reality. Named characters are actually far more powerful than you had ever previously imagined. Oh, and they are bigger too. That means to keep up with the fluff the model that used to cost $45 is now $130, 3 times larger, sits on a scenic base about 3" higher and supply is limited (or it comes in a special box that sold out before you woke and had your first cup of coffee.)

There you go, you're all caught up.

Pics for reference:

Belakor



Gazghul



Lord of Change



Marneus



And just so you didn't think Age of Sigmar got left out we present:

Kroak




There you go, you are all caught up with the lore.

[angelwing]

I didn't realise the calgar model size difference. Thats almost comical.

[infornography]

Jul 1, 2021 14:58:59 GMT angelwing said:

I didn't realise the calgar model size difference. Thats almost comical.

Well, he went from power armor firstborn when everything was 28mm "heroic" scale to primaris in gravis armor in what has shifted to nearly 32mm non-heroic scale.

Oldhammer was kinda stumpy at the best of times.

[Kitane]

HiveFleetExotica

Concerning the Tyranid lore since Guilliman came back:

1) The Devastation of Baal - a showdown between Hive Fleet Leviathan and a nearly Horus Herey era-sized force of BAs and most of their successors (more than 20k marines). We almost wiped them out until the GW said nope, threw the largest Nid fleet in history from space into the warp, and replaced them in place with a massive fleet of freshly minted Ultramarines led by Guilliman, with a chaos incursion led by a greater daemon of Khorne Ka'bandha heading to save BAs from becoming dogfood.


2) War Zone Laevenir - from 9th edition BRB, a possible candidate for Warzone expansions - Pointy ears are joining forces to defend a bunch of maiden worlds inhabited with peculiar time-altering species. They don't want Tyranids to acquire their biomass, for obvious reasons.

3) A small blurp in a side panel about a huge unknown (for now) Nid fleet appearing out of warp in Segmentus Solar, presented as a message from a remote listening post. I can't remember if it was a 9th edition BRB or one of the early codexes.

Also either the 2 or 3 actually mentions a sizeable chunk of new and unknown bioforms in addition to a number of known strains (the number of known variants was close to our current datasheet count).

[mule]

Jul 1, 2021 12:38:04 GMT mattblowers said:

Jun 30, 2021 6:29:39 GMT HiveFleetExotica said:

Just wondering if anyone can catch me up on everything big that’s been going on lore wise I haven’t really paid attention since guilliman came back and I saw some YouTube videos about mortarion and Gulliman fighting and the emperor is actually coming back???

Easily. Everything you thought you knew about lore turns out to be an illusion. It was all a ruse from the Lord of Change to make things appear different from reality. Named characters are actually far more powerful than you had ever previously imagined. Oh, and they are bigger too. That means to keep up with the fluff the model that used to cost $45 is now $130, 3 times larger, sits on a scenic base about 3" higher and supply is limited (or it comes in a special box that sold out before you woke and had your first cup of coffee.)

There you go, you're all caught up.

Pics for reference:

Belakor



Gazghul



Lord of Change



Marneus



And just so you didn't think Age of Sigmar got left out we present:

Kroak




There you go, you are all caught up with the lore.

To be fair, all of these rescupts are (please do not swear) awesome and if GW can't keep up with demand then well.. there is always recasters who will sell the models at a highly discounted rate. 

[mattblowers]

Jul 2, 2021 6:24:19 GMT mule said:

To be fair, all of these rescupts are (please do not swear) awesome and if GW can't keep up with demand then well.. there is always recasters who will sell the models at a highly discounted rate. 

New sculpts are awesome. No one makes better models than GW. Whether or not one likes the business practice of invalidating swathes of peoples collections is another thing entirely. At least up until now, GW didn't get rid of old models. I think they have decided that getting in new blood is worth alienating their old and loyal customer base. Everyone has their breaking point.

[infornography]

Jul 4, 2021 1:40:48 GMT mattblowers said:

Jul 2, 2021 6:24:19 GMT mule said:

To be fair, all of these rescupts are (please do not swear) awesome and if GW can't keep up with demand then well.. there is always recasters who will sell the models at a highly discounted rate. 

New sculpts are awesome. No one makes better models than GW. Whether or not one likes the business practice of invalidating swathes of peoples collections is another thing entirely. At least up until now, GW didn't get rid of old models. I think they have decided that getting in new blood is worth alienating their old and loyal customer base. Everyone has their breaking point.

There are a few companies that make better models than GW, but not by a lot and not as consistently. Especially if you are talking specifically about plastic kits since most of the premier model makers use resin due to production costs and economies of scale.

Dreamforge Games I would say made better minis than GW. I haven't looked at the new company that is licensing those models too much, I still have tons of the older Dreamforge kits I haven't finished yet, but MAN those models are awesome!

I do wish GW hadn't switched over almost exclusively to monopose kits though. I understand it leads to more dynamic looking poses and such, but it leads to identical dudesmen all over your army which diminishes the look of your army. When you have a dozen identical soldiers in a military formation pose (like the space marines with the bolter across their chest monopose guys in some old starters) that was fine, but when you have 4 guys all looking, aiming, and dodging in exactly the same pose, it looks like someone used photoshop to make their army look bigger like they are some tin pot dictator with a computer and a digital camera.