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Post by swarmboi on Apr 19, 2021 16:59:12 GMT
Well hive mind I call on you all again, I have a 100% record with your assists thus far so will be most obliged to here your thoughts for a 1,000 point nid army for an objectives game and fighting druhkari and thousand sons.
I have a 12k nid army so all options valid also running as Jormungandr because I love them little borrowing squirrels
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Post by zimko on Apr 19, 2021 17:13:21 GMT
You put 'swarm' in the title but don't mention it in your post. Do you want a 'swarm' list or just any list that will work against druhkari and thousand sons?
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Post by swarmboi on Apr 19, 2021 17:17:32 GMT
A nice all-round list to take on thousand sons and druhkari all swarms in my eyes 🤣
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Post by Bohxim on Apr 19, 2021 18:28:43 GMT
I hope this doesn't come across as mean,and I might be ignorant asking; but I was wondering after having 12k points of nids, don't you have a general go to list already at the 1k points level? At the 1k point level I'm always generally falling back to using warriors and either hive guards + neurothrope or exocrine + tyrant support
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Post by swarmboi on Apr 19, 2021 18:32:32 GMT
You may find it funny but I have never played a 1k game....it's always been 1.6k, 5k and even 10k. First 1k outing and first 3 way battle so I'd like some thoughts I have a good idea but it's always good to get some other hive minds feedback
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Post by Bohxim on Apr 19, 2021 18:43:47 GMT
Oh wow! That's serious jumping in hahaha I played many a 500-1000 point games before I even tried a 1500-2000 one! That's serious dedication tbh.
So far this is my most used 1k list that I tweak a little here and there to include monsters I want to test out.
Fleet: jormungandr
Hive tyrant
Hive tyrant/Neurothrope + prime
3x rippers
9x warriors - physiology
9x warriors - physiology
Lictor
Then depending on whether I want to bring firing support, I'd drop the 2nd tyrant or prime and bring stock warriors to fit guards or exocrine.
Eg
Tyrant
Neuro
2x 9x warriors + physiology
3x ripper
Lictor
2x exocrine
Doesn't kill a lot, but having a bunch of T7 4++, t8 2+ stuff to be out there to let them split fire really lets you hold Objective decently well. At least for me so far
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Post by zimko on Apr 19, 2021 19:01:05 GMT
3 way games are silly. You lose if you get ganged up on or are melee focused. Just take Hive Guard, Exocrine and Warriors. Let them fight it out while you sit back and shoot whatever you want. Most 3 way games at this size end when someone is tabled since there's no '3 way' missions you can score on.
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Post by piersonsmuppet on Apr 19, 2021 21:27:44 GMT
3 way games are silly. You lose if you get ganged up on or are melee focused. Just take Hive Guard, Exocrine and Warriors. Let them fight it out while you sit back and shoot whatever you want. Most 3 way games at this size end when someone is tabled since there's no '3 way' missions you can score on. Some one posted about a 3-person FFA match they did earlier in the year. They found a good method to keep the gang-up from happening where they only scored VP's by attacking the person to the left. I think it was some combination of WL kill, WWSWF, and some house-ruled Reverse WWSWF (so you had to kill big 3 for vps). From what I remember, they described the game as very tactical, evenly matched, and fun for all 3 involved. |
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Post by swarmboi on Apr 19, 2021 22:14:48 GMT
3 way game will not be a gang up and will be plenty of fun. There are ways you can target and split armies etc so not fussed about that. I will stick with a nice balanced army I think flyrant, hive guards, zoanthropes as a counter to the thousand sons phycic prowess, some warriors and some gribbles. I like the idea of running rippers but think they will get torn up by the druhkari. Sitting back and hoping the the druhkari and chaos wipe themselves out will never come to fruition so better off going and and taking the objectives was considering plinking a carnifax on one but points won't stretch.
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Post by terminatoruk on Apr 21, 2021 8:53:07 GMT
Can't resist this as I've finally reached the 1000pt fully painted mark (sorry for anyone that's seen this in the painting forum already!)  Not competitive, efficient (or even much of a swarm to be honest!) but fits the 'rule of cool' generalised list. Hive Fleet Kraken
1 Battalion with Warlord -0 CP Progeny of the Hive Mind -1 CP Bounty of the Hive Fleet -1CP 1 Tervigon (Warlord, Stinger Salvo, Massive Scything Talons, Relic = Chameleonic Mutation, Adaptive Physiology = Dermic Symbiosis, Warlord Trait = None - (2nd Adaptive Physiology), Psychic Powers = Smite + Catalyst) 30 Termagants (18 Fleshborers, 12 Devourers, Adaptive Physiology = Enhanced Resistance) 1 Broodlord (Monstrous Rending Claws, Relic - Resonance Barb, Psychic Powers = Smite + Onslaught) 12 Genestealers (Rending Claws / Scything Talons) 3 Ripper Swarms 1 Carnifex (Spore Cysts, Enhanced Senses, x2 Deathspitters with Slimmer Maggots, Heavy Venom Cannon) 1 Screamer Killer (Spore Cysts, x2 Monstrous Scything Talons, Bio-plasmic Scream)  |
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Post by purestrain on Apr 22, 2021 4:14:15 GMT
Can't resist this as I've finally reached the 1000pt fully painted mark (sorry for anyone that's seen this in the painting forum already!) Not competitive, efficient (or even much of a swarm to be honest!) but fits the 'rule of cool' generalised list. Hive Fleet Kraken
1 Battalion with Warlord -0 CP Progeny of the Hive Mind -1 CP Bounty of the Hive Fleet -1CP 1 Tervigon (Warlord, Stinger Salvo, Massive Scything Talons, Relic = Chameleonic Mutation, Adaptive Physiology = Dermic Symbiosis, Warlord Trait = None - (2nd Adaptive Physiology), Psychic Powers = Smite + Catalyst) 30 Termagants (18 Fleshborers, 12 Devourers, Adaptive Physiology = Enhanced Resistance) 1 Broodlord (Monstrous Rending Claws, Relic - Resonance Barb, Psychic Powers = Smite + Onslaught) 12 Genestealers (Rending Claws / Scything Talons) 3 Ripper Swarms 1 Carnifex (Spore Cysts, Enhanced Senses, x2 Deathspitters with Slimmer Maggots, Heavy Venom Cannon) 1 Screamer Killer (Spore Cysts, x2 Monstrous Scything Talons, Bio-plasmic Scream) Thats one tough tervigon  I like it! Nice paintjob too |
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Post by bolk on Apr 22, 2021 6:46:25 GMT
Used this a few games against Ravenwing, worked ok, Kronos though because of Symbiostorm and RR1 to hit standing still. Prime didn't fit in, but wanted Warriors to have some fire support and wrap up the Exocrines. ++ Battalion Detachment 0CP (Tyranids) [56 PL, 5CP, 1,000pts] +++ Configuration +[Reference] Discipline: Hive Mind[Reference] Extensions of the Hive MindBattle Size [6CP]: 2. Incursion (51-100 Total PL / 501-1000 Points) Detachment Command CostHive Fleet: Kronos + Stratagems +Progeny of the Hive [-1CP]+ HQ +Hive Tyrant [9 PL, 170pts]: Balethorn Cannon, Monstrous Rending Claws, Power: Catalyst, Power: Smite, Power: The Horror, Stranglethorn Cannon Neurothrope [5 PL, 95pts]: Power: Smite, Power: Symbiostorm, Warlord, Warlord Trait: Soul Hunger + Troops +Ripper Swarms [2 PL, 36pts]. 3x Ripper Swarm: 3x Claws and Teeth Ripper Swarms [2 PL, 36pts]. 3x Ripper Swarm: 3x Claws and Teeth Tyranid Warriors [12 PL, 234pts]: Adrenal Glands . Adaptive Physiology: Enhanced Resistance . Tyranid Warrior: Boneswords, Deathspitter . Tyranid Warrior: Boneswords, Deathspitter . Tyranid Warrior: Boneswords, Deathspitter . Tyranid Warrior: Deathspitter, Lash Whip and Bonesword . Tyranid Warrior: Deathspitter, Lash Whip and Bonesword . Tyranid Warrior: Deathspitter, Lash Whip and Bonesword . Tyranid Warrior (Bio-cannon): Boneswords, Venom Cannon . Tyranid Warrior (Bio-cannon): Boneswords, Venom Cannon Tyranid Warriors [8 PL, 89pts]: Adrenal Glands . Tyranid Warrior: 2x Scything Talons . Tyranid Warrior: 2x Scything Talons . Tyranid Warrior: 2x Scything Talons . Tyranid Warrior (Bio-cannon): Rending Claws, Venom Cannon + Heavy Support +Exocrine [9 PL, 170pts]Exocrine [9 PL, 170pts]++ Total: [56 PL, 5CP, 1,000pts] ++Created with BattleScribe |
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Post by purestrain on Apr 22, 2021 13:39:56 GMT
Used this a few games against Ravenwing, worked ok, Kronos though because of Symbiostorm and RR1 to hit standing still. Prime didn't fit in, but wanted Warriors to have some fire support and wrap up the Exocrines. ++ Battalion Detachment 0CP (Tyranids) [56 PL, 5CP, 1,000pts] +++ Configuration +[Reference] Discipline: Hive Mind[Reference] Extensions of the Hive MindBattle Size [6CP]: 2. Incursion (51-100 Total PL / 501-1000 Points) Detachment Command CostHive Fleet: Kronos + Stratagems +Progeny of the Hive [-1CP]+ HQ +Hive Tyrant [9 PL, 170pts]: Balethorn Cannon, Monstrous Rending Claws, Power: Catalyst, Power: Smite, Power: The Horror, Stranglethorn Cannon Neurothrope [5 PL, 95pts]: Power: Smite, Power: Symbiostorm, Warlord, Warlord Trait: Soul Hunger + Troops +Ripper Swarms [2 PL, 36pts]. 3x Ripper Swarm: 3x Claws and Teeth Ripper Swarms [2 PL, 36pts]. 3x Ripper Swarm: 3x Claws and Teeth Tyranid Warriors [12 PL, 234pts]: Adrenal Glands . Adaptive Physiology: Enhanced Resistance . Tyranid Warrior: Boneswords, Deathspitter . Tyranid Warrior: Boneswords, Deathspitter . Tyranid Warrior: Boneswords, Deathspitter . Tyranid Warrior: Deathspitter, Lash Whip and Bonesword . Tyranid Warrior: Deathspitter, Lash Whip and Bonesword . Tyranid Warrior: Deathspitter, Lash Whip and Bonesword . Tyranid Warrior (Bio-cannon): Boneswords, Venom Cannon . Tyranid Warrior (Bio-cannon): Boneswords, Venom Cannon Tyranid Warriors [8 PL, 89pts]: Adrenal Glands . Tyranid Warrior: 2x Scything Talons . Tyranid Warrior: 2x Scything Talons . Tyranid Warrior: 2x Scything Talons . Tyranid Warrior (Bio-cannon): Rending Claws, Venom Cannon + Heavy Support +Exocrine [9 PL, 170pts]Exocrine [9 PL, 170pts]++ Total: [56 PL, 5CP, 1,000pts] ++Created with BattleScribeId drop the WL trait for an extra Adaptation and would give either the exo dermic symbiosis or give the Neuro +1 to psyhic tests and +1 spells to make sure you get storm off on an exo. |
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Post by bolk on Apr 22, 2021 15:59:32 GMT
Used this a few games against Ravenwing, worked ok, Kronos though because of Symbiostorm and RR1 to hit standing still. Prime didn't fit in, but wanted Warriors to have some fire support and wrap up the Exocrines. ++ Battalion Detachment 0CP (Tyranids) [56 PL, 5CP, 1,000pts] +++ Configuration +[Reference] Discipline: Hive Mind[Reference] Extensions of the Hive MindBattle Size [6CP]: 2. Incursion (51-100 Total PL / 501-1000 Points) Detachment Command CostHive Fleet: Kronos + Stratagems +Progeny of the Hive [-1CP]+ HQ +Hive Tyrant [9 PL, 170pts]: Balethorn Cannon, Monstrous Rending Claws, Power: Catalyst, Power: Smite, Power: The Horror, Stranglethorn Cannon Neurothrope [5 PL, 95pts]: Power: Smite, Power: Symbiostorm, Warlord, Warlord Trait: Soul Hunger + Troops +Ripper Swarms [2 PL, 36pts]. 3x Ripper Swarm: 3x Claws and Teeth Ripper Swarms [2 PL, 36pts]. 3x Ripper Swarm: 3x Claws and Teeth Tyranid Warriors [12 PL, 234pts]: Adrenal Glands . Adaptive Physiology: Enhanced Resistance . Tyranid Warrior: Boneswords, Deathspitter . Tyranid Warrior: Boneswords, Deathspitter . Tyranid Warrior: Boneswords, Deathspitter . Tyranid Warrior: Deathspitter, Lash Whip and Bonesword . Tyranid Warrior: Deathspitter, Lash Whip and Bonesword . Tyranid Warrior: Deathspitter, Lash Whip and Bonesword . Tyranid Warrior (Bio-cannon): Boneswords, Venom Cannon . Tyranid Warrior (Bio-cannon): Boneswords, Venom Cannon Tyranid Warriors [8 PL, 89pts]: Adrenal Glands . Tyranid Warrior: 2x Scything Talons . Tyranid Warrior: 2x Scything Talons . Tyranid Warrior: 2x Scything Talons . Tyranid Warrior (Bio-cannon): Rending Claws, Venom Cannon + Heavy Support +Exocrine [9 PL, 170pts]Exocrine [9 PL, 170pts]++ Total: [56 PL, 5CP, 1,000pts] ++Created with BattleScribeId drop the WL trait for an extra Adaptation and would give either the exo dermic symbiosis or give the Neuro +1 to psyhic tests and +1 spells to make sure you get storm off on an exo. Yeah, I know, but my meta has a lot of psykers and Daemons, so wanted to see how it worked out with Soul Hunger and the Balethorn Cannon. Both Exocrines with Dermic Symbiosis and Resonance Barb on the Neurothrope is the more allround list, I agree. Could also split the big Warrior group in two and add a third Ripper Swarm and a Lictor instead of the small Warrior group. |
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Post by piersonsmuppet on Apr 23, 2021 16:49:59 GMT
Yeah, I know, but my meta has a lot of psykers and Daemons, so wanted to see how it worked out with Soul Hunger and the Balethorn Cannon. Both Exocrines with Dermic Symbiosis and Resonance Barb on the Neurothrope is the more allround list, I agree. Could also split the big Warrior group in two and add a third Ripper Swarm and a Lictor instead of the small Warrior group. Resonance Barb on the Tyrant is probably better, maximizes total psychic ability. Neuro has good enough base chance to get symbio off that spreading the love doesn't detract too much. Catalyst is usually a more important spell to get off because of how it improves ability to score primaries. Tyrant tossing 2d3 (poss 1d6+1d3) MW's and Catalyzing the Enhanced Warriors is a very strong play. |
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I like it! Nice paintjob too