2000 pt competitive list

[bumbleb1492]

So I'm planning to play a 2000 point game tomorrow night and I'd like some feedback on this list. It's a pretty standard nids list. We use lictors to drop scramblers and get engage on all fronts but I opted for 20 stealers rather than a second hive guard squad for certain matchup weaknesses. Any ideas on making it better?


++ Battalion Detachment 0CP (Tyranids) [72 PL, 11CP, 1,215pts] ++

+ Configuration +

Battle Size [12CP]: 3. Strike Force (101-200 Total PL / 1001-2000 Points)

Detachment Command Cost

Hive Fleet
. Other: Bio-metallic Cysts, Feeding Frenzy

+ Stratagems +

Progeny of the Hive [-1CP]

+ HQ +

Neurothrope [5 PL, 95pts]: Power: Catalyst, Warlord

The Swarmlord [14 PL, 270pts]: Power: Onslaught, Power: Psychic Scream

+ Troops +

Genestealers [16 PL, 300pts]: 5x Acid Maw, 20x Scything Talons
. 20x Genestealer: 20x Rending Claws

Hormagaunts [3 PL, 60pts]
. 10x Hormagaunt: 10x Scything Talons

Hormagaunts [3 PL, 60pts]
. 10x Hormagaunt: 10x Scything Talons

Termagants [3 PL, 50pts]
. 10x Termagant (Fleshborer): 10x Fleshborer

Tyranid Warriors [12 PL, 153pts]
. Adaptive Physiology: Enhanced Resistance
. Tyranid Warrior: 2x Scything Talons
. Tyranid Warrior: 2x Scything Talons
. Tyranid Warrior: 2x Scything Talons
. Tyranid Warrior: 2x Scything Talons
. Tyranid Warrior: 2x Scything Talons
. Tyranid Warrior: 2x Scything Talons
. Tyranid Warrior: 2x Scything Talons
. Tyranid Warrior: 2x Scything Talons
. Tyranid Warrior: 2x Scything Talons

Tyranid Warriors [12 PL, 153pts]
. Adaptive Physiology: Enhanced Resistance
. Tyranid Warrior: 2x Scything Talons
. Tyranid Warrior: 2x Scything Talons
. Tyranid Warrior: 2x Scything Talons
. Tyranid Warrior: 2x Scything Talons
. Tyranid Warrior: 2x Scything Talons
. Tyranid Warrior: 2x Scything Talons
. Tyranid Warrior: 2x Scything Talons
. Tyranid Warrior: 2x Scything Talons
. Tyranid Warrior: 2x Scything Talons

+ Elites +

Lictor [2 PL, 37pts]

Lictor [2 PL, 37pts]

++ Patrol Detachment -2CP (Tyranids) [39 PL, -2CP, 777pts] ++

+ Configuration +

Detachment Command Cost [-2CP]

Hive Fleet: Kronos

+ HQ +

Neurothrope [5 PL, 95pts]: Power: Symbiostorm, Resonance Barb

+ Troops +

Ripper Swarms [2 PL, 36pts]
. 3x Ripper Swarm: 3x Claws and Teeth

Ripper Swarms [2 PL, 36pts]
. 3x Ripper Swarm: 3x Claws and Teeth

+ Elites +

Hive Guard [12 PL, 270pts]
. 6x Hive Guard (Impaler): 6x Impaler Cannon

+ Heavy Support +

Exocrine [9 PL, 170pts]

Exocrine [9 PL, 170pts]

++ Total: [111 PL, 9CP, 1,992pts] ++

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[Freeman]

It’s a good list. I don’t think you need the swarmlord though.

There are only Genestealers worth him throwing forward and they’re not good anymore.

The Warrior units are excellent though and the Kronos stuff is brill.

[bumbleb1492]

Feb 21, 2021 23:52:47 GMT Freeman said:

It’s a good list. I don’t think you need the swarmlord though.

There are only Genestealers worth him throwing forward and they’re not good anymore.

The Warrior units are excellent though and the Kronos stuff is brill.

I've found swarmlord to be pretty useful in terms of just getting extra movement whether its double moving warriors onto an objective or slinging genestealers or himself at something. Genestealers are the part of this list I'm the most iffy on as they were 6 more hive guard in a previous version of the list but I feel like they can make some match ups easier to deal with.

[beetlejuice]

Definitely keep swarmlord, I’m counting 6 targets for hive commander (himself, GS, warriors, horms). I’m guessing feeding frenzy is to help GS get into engagement range? I think that will be hard anyhow. I’d drop a couple of GS (or 2 warriors but that would be worse) in order to upgrade your catalyst neuro to a broodlord and put the resonance barb there instead, that way you don’t waste the 2nd cast from the relic, catalyst is more important than symbio in this list imo for scoring primaries with obsec (debatable ofc) and a 18 man WS2+ unit is better than 20 man WS3+.

Regarding hive fleet hormagaunts already have feeding frenzy and basically only GS need it. I would double down with pack hunters (9 warriors mostly going into 5 man units). Alternatively metamorphic regrowth for SL and warriors or shrewd predators for more shenanigans on points. The prospect of a bunch of obsec, AP-2 GS, warriors and hormagaunts is appealing though.

Edit: also move 1 lictor to kronos patrol for the psychic stratagem

[garg]

I would also be in favour of giving the non Kronos Neuro resonance barb. As is you have to pay 1cp as the free relic is only for a unit in your warlord's detachment i think.
If you have the models you could swap the stealers for 9 lash whip/bs scytal warriors to act as a screen and then up the hormagants to 30.
Another option would be a tyrannofex and some termagants/warriors/hormagants.

[khyz0r]

This is pretty close to Trevy's list from Tactical Tortoise. He's been doing exceptional with it since the recent FAQ's whether it goes first or second, cause it plays the primaries well. Personally I'd drop the termagants and rippers, or reduce the stealer blob a bit to include another nuerothrope to increase your Kronos Synapse bubble. Another smite, and Horror/Paroxysm will give you more versatility than more obsec I think.

[N.I.B.]

Mar 5, 2021 20:08:27 GMT khyz0r said:

This is pretty close to Trevy's list from Tactical Tortoise.

What physiologies does he use? I guess Enhanced Resistance on the two warrior broods?

[khyz0r]

Yep, he utilises the warriors to hold and defend objectives. Occasionally if he needs to, he would enhance resistance the hive guard.

[dmt]

Nice list but:
Change the neurothrope of custom fleet with a Tyranid Prime to buff your warriors
Add shooting weapons to Warriors, Deathspitters and Venom cannon by removing the 2nd Exocrine and 10 fleshborer's Termagant
add a Broodlord to buff Genestealers
Two more things, consider parossysm like our best psychic power and that WH40K is a buff strategy game 😉
My 2 cents

[nightmare53]

+1 for the prime and broodlord
Why dont use gorgon fleet instead of custom one ? You could reroll 1 wounds + buffs all friendly unit with AP +1 with psychic power.
To be quickly in contact you Can replace one of your warriors unités by raveners same stats but quicker and possibility to death from below. The cost will be a Reaper or a lictor unit.

[piersonsmuppet]

Mar 25, 2021 23:27:14 GMT nightmare53 said:

+1 for the prime and broodlord
Why dont use gorgon fleet instead of custom one ? You could reroll 1 wounds + buffs all friendly unit with AP +1 with psychic power.
To be quickly in contact you Can replace one of your warriors unités by raveners same stats but quicker and possibility to death from below. The cost will be a Reaper or a lictor unit.

Gorgon would force castling around the pskyer with the power, the custom fleet gives the advantage of being able to disperse forces w/o losing effectiveness (that 6" pile-in for the 20-man GS unit is also fantastic). I will -1 the prime, since the warriors will likely sit and hold an obj or can clear chaff well enough as is. W/o Zoans, I would agree that at least one of the Neuro's should be a BL w/ Barb. You'd keep the same psyker presence, but add more than 30pts worth of melee capability. I would put it in the Kronos patrol, too much risk for his fragile frame to be buffing the GS when slinging and he can at least punish units who push into the HG/Exo's (Neuro isn't doing much if something gets back there). Could also trade 1xExo and the Flesh-Gants for a unit of Dev-Gants, would make the list play primaries even harder. Though, if you find you need the 2nd Exo to keep the big guns off the warriors and to help thin MEQ/TEQ units, perhaps not.