The REAL REASON Big E is on his throne

[Hive Bahamut]

So the Heresy isn't new to anyone, but something that my friend brought up and am curious about with it is. Just a quick summary for anyone not up to speed. Sanguinus catches Horus and tries to kill him, just as the killing blow is laid, Emperor shows up and disciplines his child, while getting mortally wounded in the process. That is fine and all but as history has gone to show, usually the most obvious answer is usually not the right one. I like this theory, and it actually could lead to the next Heresy/civil war that they seem to be lining up. (Because different isn't better, just more of the same!)

Very similar start, but instead of Sanguinus being laid low by Horus it was actually the other way around. In order to finally defeat his brother though he had only one option.. To succumb to the Rage. With no other options in sight there was no choice.. As Horus's body dropped to the floor the Emperor arrived, to see one of his favourites, become the monster he hunted. Sanguinus was already one of the top combat Primarchs, now with a berserker rage added, the Emperor was now rivalled in combat prowess. He finished the job, but not without tremendous damage done. It is harder to strike down those you love (create and order around is faschist love right?) Than your enemies.

The Emperor is on the throne because he had to put down one of his favourite children, and it cost him dearly. Horus was just a catalyst used by the Dark Gods to turn Sanguine.


I expect this to be fleshed out in some way shape or form, as the split has both mutant Astartes seperated from their core. (Werewolves and Vampires are kind of Daemons guys,) and it would be a perfect way to recapture the lightning in a bottle the Horus Heresy Book line has shown GW that it wants.

Trying to figure out how they are dumping Heresy 2.0 on us using lore. (Not sure source but I like the idea.)

PS: I just realized there are already 3 Heretic Astartes amongst the loyalists. Neat. (Each has their own codex too.. Hmm.. Here I have been poo pooing GW for their Astartes focus when really it is Chaos.)

[behemothsplinter317]

I hope this isn't considered a necro post, since the thread is still on the first page?

Anyways, I could kinda see it, but Sanguinius still seems to be showing up as the Sanguinor, no?

I assume you're calling the Space Wolves and Blood Angels Heretics; who else? Black Templars? They're heretical in numbers, if not in genetics?

[Hive Bahamut]

Well I did not know that about Sanguinor. That could almost add to the story further. Big E split his soul in half because there was too much power for 1 Primarch etc.

Well heretical is a very loose term, but you could almost fashion any of the loyalists into chaos very easily. The 4 I see having the connections are:

1. Dark Angels, who literally have an Inner Circle of "whoops guess we better redeem ourselves before we are expunged!"

2. Space Wolves, who have wolf daemons and pretend they don't use "magic"

3. Blood Angels, Nosferatu 40k. Could be lead character in a 40k narrative that makes Anakin and Kylo look tame.

4. Black Templar, who never stopped Crusading, and never ever fell into proper cohesion.

Of those 4 only the 2 that are cut off from the rest of the Empire seem like perfect candidates. Space Wolves and Blood Angels maybe accepted Primaris with open arms, but once supplies are cutoff and reinforcements slim, where will their allegiance lie?


PS: GW would NEVER EVER EVER swap a loyalist to chaos and vise versa.. The crying would literally shift the polar axis and cause a global meltdown. Even though it would be like the coolest narrative ever and completely untouched ground.