Necron Nemisis

[spinfeild]

I was wondering if anyone who frequents this site has had any success against Necrons. I play a Necron player quite frequently and can’t seem to Find an answer to the nonsense lol.

I have tried swarm, but still get out scored because of their new objective secured customization.

I have tried to out kill him with gun lines and monsters but living metal and reanimation tends to undo all my hard work.

Nidzilla does not have enough primary scoring and then you are handing them 15 points for bring it down.

Gaunt carpets just seem to get obliterated in 2-3 turns.

Tar pits don’t work, with royal wardens allowing falling out and shooting THEN charging.

So what am I missing?

Any advice or sympathetic venting would be helpful.

Thanks boys (and girls?)

[beetlejuice]

Mortal wounds, that way he gets no reanimation. What kind of list is he running? Warrior spam? We have options to outrange with exos and HG. Soup in GSC for deepstriking troops and blast weapons. Kelermorph to snipe chronomancers and royal wardens. Mawloc deals MW in movement phase vs ctan (and then psychic, shoot, fight means dead in 1 turn reliably).

Secondaries will be hard vs all new codexes that have more options to choose from... just make sure you can score yours so bring a lictor for scramblers/engage etc.

[kazetanade]

Necrons have trash level multi-damage options - most competitive lists sits on the back of Skorpekh or Silent King for doing multi-wound damage, with the rest of the army doing primarily anti infantry damage.

Where nidzilla will face issues is being out obsec, mostly.

Mortal wounds hit Necrons really hard, as do movement blocking shenanigans that block the silver tide from doing much.

Note also that every 20 man Warrior that dies is a huge chunk of the army's power.

Sniping out characters can also work, but I wouldn't recommend it with the kellermorph unless its a Cryptek. The rest of their characters are T5.

This army demands overkill, not chip. But primarily being able to block movement with cheap things and then losing it is totally fine.

[spinfeild]

Thanks for the advice boys. I will have to add some models to my army to get some decent mortal wounds outside of the psychic phase. I was going to go for a sporocyst before fortifications took a hit with the faq. Perhaps biovores will be in order for some move blocking/mortal wounds, hiding out of line of sight would be nice as well.

My Nemesis runs the entire Indomitus box with an extra squad of warriors, a doomstalker and a C’tan on the way. He plays them with the ‘relentless expansionists’ and objective secured. Having his warriors count as 2 models is difficult to deal with.

I will continue throwing my squish bugs at this metal wall with your advice in mind. Certainly looking forward to a new codex, hopefully this will be the year of the big.

[dauvan]

I play frequently against a warrior spam necron player.
as other have already said a blob of 20 warrior is a fair chunk of his force.
it also is a intimidating presence on the board.

this is the main units in the list I run who does realy well against Necron.

3x10 hormagaunts             (doesnt kill anything but move fast, use them to block choke point and warriors movement)
2x exocrine                       (effective against warriors)
1x6 hiveguard                   (effective against warriors)
1x5 zoanthrope                 (smite and ressiliant)
1x Neurotrope                   (alternate source of smite)
1x Other HQ with psychic   (psychic scream or smite 
1x3 pyrovore                     (surprising against warriors, push them forward as they are low cost and you dont care if they are targeted)

remember to play to the objective, you wont table the necrons.
removing is board presence and limiting his primary scoring is the way to go.

[kazetanade]

One more thing to add is that Necron melee is generally S7 - very few get up to S8, and I think they do not have S9 melee period barring C'tans (Night bringer gets S14 JUST DIE and Void Dragon gets S9 WHY WONT YOU DIE profiles respectively). They have only 3? S9+ guns (big Gauss, Deathray, SK Menhirs) and 1 use Taychon arrows, so Monster Mash (T8 variety and Maleceptor buffs) is a real issue for Necrons in general. The lack of rerolls in general become an even bigger problem, making any non-melee focused Necron list naturally disadvantaged vs the standard Nids defensive strategy (Male/Mala combo).