Venomthorn vs Pathogenesis

[mishkaxxx]

Hello, havent posted in quite a while, I have a guestion for Mathhammer experts out there.

Question is, what is better in terms of average damage output, a venomthorne parasite or pathogenesis?

The unit in question is kronos hive tyrant wit a heavy venom cannon standing still (no second ranged weapon).

At first my choice was obviously the venomthorne, howerer I later thought that pathogenesis might actually be better.

And lets say that the targets are a primaris space marine, terminator, land raider, their new flying tank and whatever it is that could be the most likely target of a heavy venom cannon.

[No One]

Probably patho: without Kronos rerolls (which I can't properly account for how I've got it set up), patho is better when wounding on 3s, while they're basically the same when wounding on 2s.

I can't calculate with Kronos rerolls properly, but I feel pretty confident saying that venom is better if 2+ to wound, and is marginally better if 3+.

I still think patho though: it is essentially only worse if standing still and shooting T4 or less (without wound mods). If you move, get blast, shooting through dense or some other source of -1, it's going to be the same or better than venomthorn. And it also gets +8" range so you can more easily stay still and get Kronos rerolls.

[hivefleetkerrigan]

I'm voting patho as well. My reason comes down to blast making the venomthorne a lot less attractive for venom cannons: you only get the bonus of maximum hits if you are rolling against a unit of less than 5 models. I also find that extra range is always very useful for tyranids.