9th and charging

[pigvomitz]

I haven’t played since 5th edition, do you still get an extra attack when you charge? I’m reading the rulebook and some old rules may still be stuck in my head.

[No One]

No. The 'charge bonus' is now that chargers fight first as part of the core rules.

[pigvomitz]

Thanks

[NidNoms]

Aug 22, 2020 1:50:24 GMT No One said:

No. The 'charge bonus' is now that chargers fight first as part of the core rules.

not to mention Overwatch has to be payed for via CP which is sweet

[No One]

I mean, I don't think overwatch even existed in 5th, so...

[asvic]

While we are on topic of charges, have they still not fixed charging aircraft with units who FLY?

[No One]

What's the issue?

[asvic]

Aug 24, 2020 10:15:09 GMT No One said:

What's the issue?

Per core rules NO MODEL can end ANY KIND OF MOVE (so charges too) within engagement range of the aircraft. BUT for FLY units aircrafts are not excluded when determining which model is closest for the purpose of pile ins\consolidations\heroics, which suggests that FLY units should be able to fight aircraft, and yet they can't end their charge within aircraft's e.r. . Last time I checked the FAQ this issue wasn't addressed.

[No One]

...Huh, woops. I was going to make a comment about how that means all the stuff about being in engagement range is pointless, since you can't get there, but there's also no caveats for stuff that can hover. So you can get charged by Aircraft, but can never charge them, and the fact that you can't end your pile ins within engagement range makes the fact that you ignore them as closest pretty pointless. All in all, seems like a mess.

[yoritomo]

Aug 24, 2020 11:17:11 GMT asvic said:

Per core rules NO MODEL can end ANY KIND OF MOVE (so charges too) within engagement range of the aircraft. BUT for FLY units aircrafts are not excluded when determining which model is closest for the purpose of pile ins\consolidations\heroics, which suggests that FLY units should be able to fight aircraft, and yet they can't end their charge within aircraft's e.r. . Last time I checked the FAQ this issue wasn't addressed.

I don't see the issue here. If you can't end ANY KIND OF MOVE within engagement range of an aircraft then you can't end your pile in/consolidation/heroic intervention within engagement range of an aircraft as they are also a kind of move. It doesn't matter if they are ignored as the closest model or not, if you can't get into engagement range then you can't fight them in close combat.

[No One]

yoritomo said:

I don't see the issue here.

The fact that you can't get in engagement range, Fly, hover or otherwise is the issue. Especially when Fly has to move towards it if closest, despite not actually being able to do anything. Considering they've got this pile of caveats about actually being in engagement range, despite that only being possible if you get charged by an aircraft...