‘Nidzilla 2k Shooty (competitive)

[Freeman]

Hi guys, proper got the buzz back for this new edition. I’ve played this list twice now and found it interestingly good, but if I’m honest both myself and my opponents we’re still getting our heads around the rules and missions. I’ve got a one day event Sunday so that’ll be the real test.


++ Patrol Detachment 0CP (Tyranids) [41 PL, 860pts, 10CP] ++

+ Configuration +

Battle Size [12CP]: 3. Strike Force (101-200 Total PL / 1001-2000 Points)

Detachment CP

Hive Fleet
. Other: Biosphere Consumption, Metamorphic Regrowth

+ Stratagems +

Bounty of the Hive Fleet [-1CP]: 1 Extra Bio-artefact

Progeny of the Hive [-1CP]

+ HQ +

Hive Tyrant [9 PL, 195pts]: Heavy Venom Cannon, Power: Catalyst, Power: Onslaught, Power: Smite, The Venomthorn Parasite, Two Devourers with Brainleech Worms, Warlord
. Adaptive Physiology: Voracious Ammunition

Neurothrope [5 PL, 95pts]: Power: Catalyst, Power: Smite, Resonance Barb

+ Troops +

Tyranid Warriors [4 PL, 63pts]
. Tyranid Warrior: 2x Scything Talons
. Tyranid Warrior: 2x Scything Talons
. Tyranid Warrior: 2x Scything Talons

+ Elites +

Hive Guard [12 PL, 300pts]
. 6x Hive Guard (Impaler): 6x Impaler Cannon

Lictor [2 PL, 37pts]: Flesh Hooks, Rending Claws

+ Heavy Support +

Exocrine [9 PL, 170pts]
. Adaptive Physiology: Dermic Symbiosis

++ Spearhead Detachment -3CP (Tyranids) [58 PL, 1,139pts, -3CP] ++

+ Configuration +

Detachment CP [-3CP]

Hive Fleet
. Other: Biosphere Consumption, Metamorphic Regrowth

+ HQ +

Hive Tyrant [12 PL, 240pts]: Power: Catalyst, Power: Psychic Scream, Power: Smite, 2x Two Devourers with Brainleech Worms, Wings

Hive Tyrant [12 PL, 240pts]: Power: Psychic Scream, Power: Smite, Power: The Horror, 2x Two Devourers with Brainleech Worms, Wings

+ Elites +

Lictor [2 PL, 37pts]: Flesh Hooks, Rending Claws

Lictor [2 PL, 37pts]: Flesh Hooks, Rending Claws

+ Heavy Support +

Tyrannofex [10 PL, 195pts]: Acid Spray

Tyrannofex [10 PL, 195pts]: Acid Spray

Tyrannofex [10 PL, 195pts]: Acid Spray

++ Total: [99 PL, 7CP, 1,999pts] ++

The Lictors almost guarantee Scramblers and the Neurothrope will go for Psychic Interrogation or Ritual.

The strategy is take the middle ground ASAP to score points and put the very good shooting into things.

Obviously C&C is welcome but I’m locked in for the event.

[gorsameth]

Resonance barb on a neurothrope instead of a Hive Tyrant is wasting the extra cast. The psychic actions are a low cast value, you already have re-roll ones you don't really need an additional +1.

[cmob208]

Looks like a good list, and fun to play. Looks like engage all fronts and scramblers should be easy, and you could probably pick a killy secondary as your third. Primary looks a bit tougher, but your t-fexes should kill stuff in the middle easily. Let us know how it plays.

[Freeman]

Aug 22, 2020 9:50:05 GMT gorsameth said:

Resonance barb on a neurothrope instead of a Hive Tyrant is wasting the extra cast. The psychic actions are a low cast value, you already have re-roll ones you don't really need an additional +1.

That’s probably a fair point, but the zoanthrope re-roll ones doesn’t work for psychic actions as auras stop.

For the rare times it fails I could just CP reroll

[gorsameth]

Aug 22, 2020 14:57:25 GMT Freeman said:

Aug 22, 2020 9:50:05 GMT gorsameth said:

Resonance barb on a neurothrope instead of a Hive Tyrant is wasting the extra cast. The psychic actions are a low cast value, you already have re-roll ones you don't really need an additional +1.

That’s probably a fair point, but the zoanthrope re-roll ones doesn’t work for psychic actions as auras stop.

For the rare times it fails I could just CP reroll

Psychic Actions are separate from Actions and does not include the part about aura's not working so you can still re-roll ones.

[No One]

Psychic action's different to a normal action.

[Freeman]

Okay, I lost 2 games and won one.

The first game I lost against loads of Eldar grav tanks with wraithseers. Just too much long range high strength high damage shooting. To be honest, I don’t see a monster mash list ever competing with that.

Second game against ultramarines with lots of very strong meta choices, eradicators, aggressors, drop pods full of grav and Primaris MSU. Piloted by a good player who’s played a lot. I smashed this reasonably easily to be honest. My list was written with this marine build in mind, roughly about half the lists at the event were Primaris and I believe this is gonna be a thing for a while.

Last game I lost against Tau, two riptides,unit of broadsides, two commanders and drones. Flyrants did work here but my lack of practice lately meant I made some big targeting mistakes and I lost by 12 points including a ten point swing when a single drone passed its 5++ with my last shots. Riptides surviving turns on a couple of wounds after passing lots of saves etc. I wouldn’t say he was particularly lucky, just that it could very easily have fallen the other way.

Overall I have to say I was very pleasantly surprised by the list. I had firepower that genuinely shocked a tau player and found secondaries pretty easy to do well at.

There’s a few changes I might try (going Kronos possibly) like giving Zoenthropes and Maleceptors a chance.

[N.I.B.]

How did the Acidfexes do?

[Freeman]

Aug 25, 2020 12:51:51 GMT N.I.B. said:

How did the Acidfexes do?

Really good. Solidly took loads of firepower and gave out loads too. Highlight was killing two Primaris bikes in overwatch before finishing the last one off!

[Freeman]

Had another game tonight, I gave the Flyrants a pair of MRCs each and invested the extra points in a unit of rippers.

My opponent took this:

Just beat this 77-55


++ Spearhead Detachment -3CP (Imperium - Adeptus Astartes - Ultramarines) [51 PL, 8CP, 1,067pts] ++

+ Configuration +

**Chapter Selection**: Inheritors of the Primarch, Ultramarines, Ultramarines Successor

Battle Size [12CP]: 3. Strike Force (101-200 Total PL / 1001-2000 Points)

Detachment CP [-3CP]

+ Stratagems +

Relics of the Chapter [-1CP]: Number of extra Relics

+ HQ +

Primaris Captain (Indomitus) [5 PL, 105pts]: Seal of Oath

+ Fast Attack +

Inceptor Squad [6 PL, 120pts]: Assault bolter x2, 2x Inceptor, Inceptor Sergeant

+ Heavy Support +

Eradicator Squad [5 PL, 120pts]: Eradicator Sgt
. 2x Eradicator: 2x Bolt pistol, 2x Melta rifle

Eradicator Squad [5 PL, 120pts]: Eradicator Sgt
. 2x Eradicator: 2x Bolt pistol, 2x Melta rifle

Hellblaster Squad [8 PL, 165pts]: Assault Plasma Incinerator
. 4x Hellblaster: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Frag & Krak grenades
. Hellblaster Sergeant: Bolt pistol

Hellblaster Squad [8 PL, 165pts]: Assault Plasma Incinerator
. 4x Hellblaster: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Frag & Krak grenades
. Hellblaster Sergeant: Bolt pistol

+ Dedicated Transport +

Impulsor [7 PL, 136pts]: 2x Storm Bolters, Ironhail Heavy Stubber, Shield Dome

Impulsor [7 PL, 136pts]: 2x Storm Bolters, Ironhail Heavy Stubber, Shield Dome

++ Vanguard Detachment -3CP (Imperium - Adeptus Astartes - Ultramarines) [47 PL, -3CP, 933pts] ++

+ Configuration +

**Chapter Selection**: Inheritors of the Primarch, Ultramarines, Ultramarines Successor

Detachment CP [-3CP]

+ HQ +

Lieutenants [5 PL, 93pts]
. Lieutenant: Chainsword, Jump Pack, Storm bolter, Teeth of Terra, The Imperium's Sword, Warlord

+ Elites +

Aggressor Squad [12 PL, 225pts]: 4x Aggressor, Aggressor Sergeant
. Auto Boltstorm Gauntlets/Fragstorm Grenade Launcher

Invictor Tactical Warsuit [8 PL, 165pts]: Fragstorm Grenade Launcher, Heavy bolter, 2x Ironhail Heavy Stubber, Twin ironhail autocannon

Invictor Tactical Warsuit [8 PL, 165pts]: Fragstorm Grenade Launcher, Heavy bolter, 2x Ironhail Heavy Stubber, Twin ironhail autocannon

Invictor Tactical Warsuit [8 PL, 165pts]: Fragstorm Grenade Launcher, Heavy bolter, 2x Ironhail Heavy Stubber, Twin ironhail autocannon

+ Fast Attack +

Inceptor Squad [6 PL, 120pts]: Assault bolter x2, 2x Inceptor, Inceptor Sergeant

++ Total: [98 PL, 5CP, 2,000pts] ++

I won 77-55. Went second this time which was a worry. The Invictirs penned me in T1 and really caused me problems. At the end of my opponents T2 I thought I was cooked but the cc Flyrants fought me out and my turn really swung it back. A lucky explosion knackering a couple of his little squads beyond being important didn’t help the marines but I was pulling away on points and board control by then.

For my next game I think I’m gonna put a pair of claws on the walkrant too. That leaves me with 26pts to play around with....

[beetlejuice]

Well done, especially since that marine list looks like pure cancer, at least it’s not salamanders