9th Edition - Zoan + Warriors List - Help Needed

[dalamar]

Hi all, this is a list I have been looking a durable list (Leviathan and -1 to hit) with two separate cores; one around Warriors and a Prime the second a Malanthrope + Zoanthropes.

There are some points available and I have thought of three options I was considering to complete the list (Displayed below the force list)


++ Battalion Detachment 0CP (Tyranids) [63 PL, 1,389pts, 12CP] ++

+ Configuration +

Battle Size [12CP]: 3. Strike Force (101-200 Total PL / 1001-2000 Points)

Detachment CP

Hive Fleet: Leviathan

+ HQ +

Malanthropes [5 PL, 135pts]
. Malanthrope

Tyranid Prime [6 PL, 84pts]: Boneswords, Deathspitter, Warlord

+ Troops +

Ripper Swarms [2 PL, 36pts]
. 3x Ripper Swarm: 3x Claws and Teeth

Tyranid Warriors [13 PL, 297pts]
. Tyranid Warrior: Boneswords, Deathspitter
. Tyranid Warrior: Boneswords, Deathspitter
. Tyranid Warrior: Boneswords, Deathspitter
. Tyranid Warrior: Boneswords, Deathspitter
. Tyranid Warrior: Boneswords, Deathspitter
. Tyranid Warrior: Boneswords, Deathspitter
. Tyranid Warrior (Bio-cannon): Boneswords, Venom Cannon
. Tyranid Warrior (Bio-cannon): Boneswords, Venom Cannon
. Tyranid Warrior (Bio-cannon): Boneswords, Venom Cannon

Tyranid Warriors [13 PL, 297pts]
. Tyranid Warrior: Boneswords, Deathspitter
. Tyranid Warrior: Boneswords, Deathspitter
. Tyranid Warrior: Boneswords, Deathspitter
. Tyranid Warrior: Boneswords, Deathspitter
. Tyranid Warrior: Boneswords, Deathspitter
. Tyranid Warrior: Boneswords, Deathspitter
. Tyranid Warrior (Bio-cannon): Boneswords, Venom Cannon
. Tyranid Warrior (Bio-cannon): Boneswords, Venom Cannon
. Tyranid Warrior (Bio-cannon): Boneswords, Venom Cannon

+ Elites +

Zoanthropes [12 PL, 270pts]: Power: Catalyst, Power: Smite
. 6x Zoanthrope: 6x Claws and Teeth

Zoanthropes [12 PL, 270pts]: Power: Smite, Power: The Horror
. 6x Zoanthrope: 6x Claws and Teeth

++ Patrol Detachment -2CP (Tyranids) [28 PL, 471pts, -3CP] ++

+ Configuration +

Detachment CP [-2CP]

Hive Fleet: Kronos

+ Stratagems +

Progeny of the Hive [-1CP]

+ HQ +

Neurothrope [4 PL, 95pts]: Power: Smite, Power: Symbiostorm

+ Troops +

Ripper Swarms [2 PL, 36pts]
. 3x Ripper Swarm: 3x Claws and Teeth

+ Heavy Support +

Exocrine [11 PL, 170pts]
. Adaptive Physiology: Dermic Symbiosis

Exocrine [11 PL, 170pts]
. Adaptive Physiology: Dermic Symbiosis

++ Total: [91 PL, 1,860pts, 9CP] ++


With the remaining 140 points, my options can be

1) 2 x Units of 10 Termagaunts and 1 x Unit of 3 Rippers
2) Malanthrope added to Kronos to protect Exocrines
3) 1 x Unit if Rippers and 1 x Unit of 3 Venomthropes added to Kronos to protect the Exocrines.

I had another thought about dropping the number of warriors in one unit slightly and adding in a small unit of Hive Guard/Impalers too.

If anyone has suggestions that would be great!

Opponents in my group are Ultramarines, Deathwatch, Tau and Imperial Guard.

[gribblybaby]

I would seriously consider putting enhanced resistance on your warriors

And I think finding room for a 5 hive guard wouldn’t hurt since your only s8 is the Venom cannons.

I really like this list though looks fun.

Also might be worth considering lash whips and Boneswords, less punchy in combat, but can enhance your survival if you get charged and your probably getting charged. And survival seems to be the name of the game.

[dalamar]

Aug 10, 2020 1:01:06 GMT gribblybaby said:

I would seriously consider putting enhanced resistance on your warriors

And I think finding room for a 5 hive guard wouldn’t hurt since your only s8 is the Venom cannons.

I really like this list though looks fun.

Also might be worth considering lash whips and Boneswords, less punchy in combat, but can enhance your survival if you get charged and your probably getting charged. And survival seems to be the name of the game.

Thanks for the input! I took your suggestion and have modified the list:
Added 5 Hive Guard
Reduced one Warrior Squad by 3 (to pay for 5 HG)
Changed weapon load out on warriors to include a mix of Whips for extra staying power and get to 1999 points by having one unit use Rending Claws.

Do you think that the Resistance on the unit of 9 is more valuable than the two Dermic Symbiosis on the Exocrines? I can swap 1 around.

Modified list now:


++ Battalion Detachment 0CP (Tyranids) [59 PL, 1,278pts, 12CP] ++

+ Configuration +

Battle Size [12CP]: 3. Strike Force (101-200 Total PL / 1001-2000 Points)

Detachment CP

Hive Fleet: Leviathan

+ HQ +

Malanthropes [5 PL, 135pts]
. Malanthrope

Tyranid Prime [6 PL, 84pts]: Deathspitter, Lash Whip and Bonesword, Warlord

+ Troops +

Ripper Swarms [2 PL, 36pts]
. 3x Ripper Swarm: 3x Claws and Teeth

Tyranid Warriors [9 PL, 195pts]
. Tyranid Warrior: Deathspitter, Lash Whip and Bonesword
. Tyranid Warrior: Deathspitter, Lash Whip and Bonesword
. Tyranid Warrior: Deathspitter, Lash Whip and Bonesword
. Tyranid Warrior: Deathspitter, Scything Talons
. Tyranid Warrior (Bio-cannon): Boneswords, Venom Cannon
. Tyranid Warrior (Bio-cannon): Boneswords, Venom Cannon

Tyranid Warriors [13 PL, 288pts]
. Tyranid Warrior: Deathspitter, Lash Whip and Bonesword
. Tyranid Warrior: Deathspitter, Lash Whip and Bonesword
. Tyranid Warrior: Deathspitter, Lash Whip and Bonesword
. Tyranid Warrior: Deathspitter, Scything Talons
. Tyranid Warrior: Deathspitter, Scything Talons
. Tyranid Warrior: Deathspitter, Scything Talons
. Tyranid Warrior (Bio-cannon): Boneswords, Venom Cannon
. Tyranid Warrior (Bio-cannon): Boneswords, Venom Cannon
. Tyranid Warrior (Bio-cannon): Boneswords, Venom Cannon
*(Could have Enhanced Resistance by removing Dermic Symbiosis from 1 unit of Exocrine)

+ Elites +

Zoanthropes [12 PL, 270pts]: Power: Catalyst, Power: Smite
. 6x Zoanthrope: 6x Claws and Teeth

Zoanthropes [12 PL, 270pts]: Power: Smite, Power: The Horror
. 6x Zoanthrope: 6x Claws and Teeth

++ Patrol Detachment -2CP (Tyranids) [41 PL, 721pts, -3CP] ++

+ Configuration +

Detachment CP [-2CP]

Hive Fleet: Kronos

+ Stratagems +

Progeny of the Hive [-1CP]

+ HQ +

Neurothrope [4 PL, 95pts]: Power: Smite, Power: Symbiostorm

+ Troops +

Ripper Swarms [2 PL, 36pts]
. 3x Ripper Swarm: 3x Claws and Teeth

+ Elites +

Hive Guard [13 PL, 250pts]
. 5x Hive Guard (Impaler): 5x Impaler Cannon

+ Heavy Support +

Exocrine [11 PL, 170pts]
. Adaptive Physiology: Dermic Symbiosis

Exocrine [11 PL, 170pts]
. Adaptive Physiology: Dermic Symbiosis
*(Could he swapped for Enhanced Resistance on Warriors)

++ Total: [100 PL, 1,999pts, 9CP] ++

[gribblybaby]

It’s a toss up. I’d be very tempted to put enhanced resistance on the big blob, it just makes them soooo much more survivable and that’s really what you want them to do.

I know it sucks to only have Dermic on one exocrine though, since it feels like they’ll just ignore him and kill the other.

[N.I.B.]

You could always deploy the naked Exo in a forest for -1 to be hit, or behind a ruin, then move out and pop the strat to be stationary.

[Hyrrokin]

Interesting list. This inspired me to some changes and gave me a list I want to try for the first time this edition 🙂



Batt.
-1 CP progeny of the hive
Hq:
Malanthrope (135)
Neurothrope, catalyst, warlord (95)
Warrior prime, bonesword and lashwhip, deathspitter (84)
Troops:
3 rippers
3 rippers
9 warriors, 3 swords, 3 whips, 3 venom cannons, adaptive;enhanced resistance (288)
Elite:
5 zoanthropes, the horror (275)
5 zoanthropes, the horror (275)
5 zoanthropes, the horror (275)

Patrol: -2 CP
Hq:
1 Hive tyrant, 2x devourer, relic;pathogenesis, symbiostorm, paroxcysm (195)
Troops:
3 rippers (36)
Elite:
5 hive guards (250)
Heavy:
1 exocrine, adaptive;dermic symbiosis (170)

2000/2000 pts and 9 CP.

Idea is to have invul and tanky models to take objectives but also dishing out damage with smites. While you already had anti tank the hive tyrant brings some anti infantry so your warriors aren't alone with it. The tyrant is almost an exocrine but in another role and there is also some strategems to take advantage of with it. You can hide it till later in the game but I would mostly try to kill with it while avoiding LoS to the rest of the army.
I'm not sure on the warrior prime. The warriors are mostly tanks and he does not seem to bring much to the table. I need to test it.
I would have liked to boost the hive guard to 6 but out of points and not sure where to take them. 5 also keep them out of blast and free their coherence a bit.

My list still follows your idea (I think) but I don't think you have enough cp or hiding spots to have 2 unit warriors and one on 6 is very small. 2 exocrine also bears the problem of shooting the other, as said, not sure you need 2 exocrine although they are good. Not a fan of reserving them. You will need all the CP for shooting twice and the warriors or some of the tricks. Not having the models on board seems more a handicap than an advantage.

Anyway thanks for Sharing hope this helps you as well 🙂