Behemot 9th 2k list

[opossum]

Hi everyone,long time since my last list here,but with new edition we need to find new solution, and i strongly believe that during theorycraft a different point of view is needed.
So here we're with a bounch of ideas for the new edition


++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Tyranids) [85 PL, -2CP, 1,459pts] ++


Hive Fleet: Behemoth

+ Stratagems +

Bounty of the Hive Fleet [-1CP]: 1 Extra Bio-artefact

Progeny of the Hive [-1CP]

+ HQ +

Broodlord [8 PL, 115pts]: Power: Catalyst, Power: Smite, Warlord

Hive Tyrant [11 PL, 229pts]: Adrenal Glands, Monstrous Scything Talons, Power: Psychic Scream, Power: Unstoppable Hunger, Scythes of Tyran, Stranglethorn Cannon, Toxin Sacs, Wings
. Adaptive Physiology: Murderous Size

The Swarmlord [15 PL, 250pts]: Power: Onslaught, Power: Unstoppable Hunger

+ Troops +

Genestealers [8 PL, 160pts]: 2x Acid Maw, 10x Scything Talons, Toxin Sacs
. 10x Genestealer: 10x Rending Claws

Genestealers [8 PL, 160pts]: 2x Acid Maw, 10x Scything Talons, Toxin Sacs
. 10x Genestealer: 10x Rending Claws

Genestealers [8 PL, 160pts]: 2x Acid Maw, 10x Scything Talons, Toxin Sacs
. 10x Genestealer: 10x Rending Claws

Hormagaunts [9 PL, 135pts]
. 27x Hormagaunt: 27x Scything Talons

Tyranid Warriors [9 PL, 125pts]
. Tyranid Warrior: Boneswords, Deathspitter
. Tyranid Warrior: Boneswords, Deathspitter
. Tyranid Warrior: Boneswords, Deathspitter
. Tyranid Warrior: Boneswords, Deathspitter
. Tyranid Warrior: Boneswords, Deathspitter

Tyranid Warriors [9 PL, 125pts]
. Tyranid Warrior: Boneswords, Deathspitter
. Tyranid Warrior: Boneswords, Deathspitter
. Tyranid Warrior: Boneswords, Deathspitter
. Tyranid Warrior: Boneswords, Deathspitter
. Tyranid Warrior: Boneswords, Deathspitter

++ Patrol Detachment (Tyranids) [15 PL, 285pts] ++

+ HQ +

Hive Tyrant [11 PL, 219pts]: 2x Monstrous Scything Talons, Adrenal Glands, Power: Catalyst, Power: Unstoppable Hunger, Resonance Barb, Toxin Sacs, Wings
. Adaptive Physiology: Murderous Size

+ Troops +

Ripper Swarms [2 PL, 33pts]
. 3x Ripper Swarm: 3x Claws and Teeth

Ripper Swarms [2 PL, 33pts]
. 3x Ripper Swarm: 3x Claws and Teeth

This would be 1999 with new points (maybe i missed something)
The General idea is to have 3 big mobile monsters (double flyrant,swarmy) to treathen enemy's shoothing Platform from the first turn,big blob of horma to moveblock slow opponents(not sure this is going to work) 4 units for points holding (swarms,warriors) and 3 counterpunch toxin sacs10 geno(this could be a big fail, they looks overcosted but deadly for everything t<8,with the chance of threathening bigger targets with unstoppable hunger ). Everything is extremely fragile and needs good terrains and a bit of skill in movingproperly.

Last,plz dont comment "tyranids are garbage right Now brbrbr".i know we're not in a solid spot,but i stil want to try something. I also know that our best piecies are exocrines  and hive guards,but i'm quite sure dat we can't go the shoothing way vs armies dat are strictly made for shoothing down opponents

[dabigboss]

Nice list. Why Behemoth? Kraken for this better, i think. You can run kraken battalion and behemoth patrol with smashtyrant.

[opossum]

Thank for the advice. Actually i value quite high the chance to use hivecommander on both smashflyrants and the obj units(flyrant moving 32+doublerun with onslaught actually ensure a turn 1 charge),also hunger is a crazy force multiplyers on geno triggering both rending and toxin sacs on 5+.but maybe i'm wrong and i'll switch back to kraken with the Main body of the list =)

[beetlejuice]

Maybe get at least one lash whip in the warrior squads to prevent consolidation moves onto objectives. My biggest concern with 10 man GS units is that while not as punished by blast weapons you don’t have any ablative wounds for the 4th attack bonus. If 10 GS were charging me I would most likely pay for overwatch since just killing one makes you go from 40 to 27 attacks, possibly saving the charged unit. I’ll try some 12-16 mans myself, if blasts are everywhere I might drop them. But let’s be fair, if they get shot at, a unit of stealers is dead, blast weapons or not. 10 man squads just make them really susceptible to split fire, just killing 1 model in each squad seriously neuters them all.

[beetlejuice]

At first I was thinking put the resonance barb on the broodlord to keep it safe. There’s an advantage to having it on the flyrant though since you can get +1 on both hunger and catalyst. With that many psykers you have redudancy casts. The upside is that it forces target priority between you psychrant and your super smashrant.

[opossum]

The advice on the geno is super worth,i'll try both the ways (and adapt on the metagame). My consideration was not about big blast weapon,but something like granades,but thx for the advice,really aprecciated.
Actually i hope the table is covered enought to be able  to put both flyrants out  of los and give some smart plays with overrun