Very First 40k List

[sojourn]

I am brand new to 40k, have only played a couple 500 pt rounds with my friend's Eldari. Please let me know what you think for a 1000pt army, I kind of just read through the book and picked up what interested me. I want to run Kraken with genestealer, but that's obviously not my main strategy. Feel free to rip into me, I'm brand new and need to learn the way.



++ Patrol Detachment (Tyranids) [60 PL, 1,000pts] ++



+ HQ +



Old One Eye [10 PL, 200pts]



The Swarmlord [15 PL, 250pts]



+ Troops +



Genestealers [8 PL, 132pts]: 2x Flesh Hooks, Toxin Sacs

. 8x Genestealer: 8x Rending Claws



Genestealers [8 PL, 100pts]: 2x Flesh Hooks

. 8x Genestealer: 8x Rending Claws



Termagants [6 PL, 96pts]

. 12x Termagant (Devourer): 12x Devourer



+ Elites +



Hive Guard [7 PL, 129pts]

. 3x Hive Guard (Impaler): 3x Impaler Cannon



+ Heavy Support +



Carnifexes [6 PL, 93pts]

. Carnifex: 2x Monstrous Scything Talons, Adrenal Glands, Bone Mace, Toxin Sacs



++ Total: [60 PL, 1,000pts] ++



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[zimko]

Sadly, the advice we give you right now may become invalid in a month when 9th edition is rumored to be out.

For 8th edition, I suggest just dropping the Carnifex and filling out the Genestealer units. Genestealers really shine in units of 10+ because they gain an extra attack when their unit's size is 10 or higher. If you don't own anymore genestealers, then I suggest combining them into 1 unit, and filling out the other Troops selection with more gaunts or ripper swarms.

[Bohxim]

Feels like 1000 points is too little to accommodate OOE and swarmy. I'd rather bring a broodlord instead of OOE to buff the genestealers and have a reliable psyker carrying the relic

[sojourn]

Jun 17, 2020 19:53:36 GMT zimko said:

Sadly, the advice we give you right now may become invalid in a month when 9th edition is rumored to be out.

For 8th edition, I suggest just dropping the Carnifex and filling out the Genestealer units. Genestealers really shine in units of 10+ because they gain an extra attack when their unit's size is 10 or higher. If you don't own anymore genestealers, then I suggest combining them into 1 unit, and filling out the other Troops selection with more gaunts or ripper swarms.

I definitely plan on getting more Genestealers to fill out my army. I agree that last carnifex is kind of just filling points atm. I'm super new to the game so I literally have every piece of my army fielded besides the one ripper swarm that I forgot came with my termagants. I think eventually I want two x20 squads of Genestealers, with Devourer Termagants to hold the back line as my OOE makes it across the map. I would probably have to remove my OOE in replace for a broodlord to keep it 1000, like what bohxim was thinking. 

Thanks for the help

[Bohxim]

Also I feel if you're just wanting to hold the back line, base gaunts are better than the devourers. You can field double the numbers for the same cost which means bigger foot print and health for screening. Termies die so quickly, it's rarely worth the upgrades unless you're using them for an ambush via jorm deep strikes (then it's just hilarious with 90 dice rolling haha) . I usually field 2x30 termies in games >1k just to block deepstrikes mid/back field or character shield the guys walking up front

[sojourn]

Jun 19, 2020 5:37:36 GMT Bohxim said:

Also I feel if you're just wanting to hold the back line, base gaunts are better than the devourers. You can field double the numbers for the same cost which means bigger foot print and health for screening. Termies die so quickly, it's rarely worth the upgrades unless you're using them for an ambush via jorm deep strikes (then it's just hilarious with 90 dice rolling haha) . I usually field 2x30 termies in games >1k just to block deepstrikes mid/back field or character shield the guys walking up front

I really like the idea of deepstrike Devourers. My wife is actually in the process of casting the tiniest d6 dice. So I hope to be able to fit 100+ dice in my hand, and just go crazy. 

Based from what I have been hearing, i'm probably going to just work on my swarm. I have some good heavy hitters. For now, delete my Carnifex. Maybe drop Swarmlord if I go for jorm. Or OOE if I go for Kraken. Replace the big guys with more Gaunts or Stealers. Maybe get a broodlord or some psykers.