Arming mining laser squad?

[niiai]

If I am running a 10 man squad with mininglasers to apear from ambush would you rather run the with webers for 1 point or grenade launchers for 3 points?

Grenade launchers seems unapealing for me. Unlessyou shoot at T6 you are wounding on 5+ with krak grenade.

Weber on the other han is S4 range 16 and auto hits. Also will work very good as owerwatch vs charges. What do you think?

Also, the power maul? 4 points for S5 seems very exspesie. Can you ever see it making its points back?

[niiai]

I have come across a spare GSC neophyte spruce. I currently have four squads armed identical: 2 mining lasers, 2 webbers, leader with autogun and chainsword.

My question is what should I be arming the 5th 10 man squad as. I feel 10 identical squads might be to many for diversatys sake. Perhaps give them grenade launchers instead of webbers? On the other hand they are a very versatile group that can do plenty.

Usualy i use them in a combined GSC and nids army, so I use 33 point ripper swarm as objective grabbers. Also my fancy deoployment stratagems as usually used elsewhere, so a fancy shotgunsquad might not be what I am looking for. I usualy run them in bladed caugh. Suggestions are welcome.

[Hive Bahamut]

I think there are a few variants here.

IMO the best loadout is Lasers and Launchers, because although they are only S6 the D3D is nice. If 1 Krak Grenade kills anything it paid for them all. Also I like even numbers and 80 is a nice round of 2x basic Bro Bro's cost.

The Webbers are a great price point but I never found they were in range as the rest want to sit at 24".

As for the Sergeant I give them the autogun just to keep them seperate from Bro Bro's again as I will never willingly toss them in combat (unless OW eater etc) so the extra A is worth less than anoter 40k BB gun.

Flamers are right out at that price.

[niiai]

I thinkbyou are right about the grenade launchera. But on the other hand it is nice to keep them cheap.

The webber has 14 range, witch makes it a very goos flamer in my book. 1d3 shoots S4 is nice. Garanteed at least one infantery in overwatch with two of them. I think that is worth the cost. (Although the real cost is that it comes as the expensence of the grenade launchers.) I plan on using mine as Bladed Cog, so I can walk and shoot at BS. Perhaps that id what makes me biast, the short range of the webbers can be mitigated.

Perhaps 1 ekstra shot on the pistol is worth it. It probably is, as my chainswords will probably never see the light of day. If you are going that way you might wanne chip in one ekstra point for the S4 bolt pistol or autohit web pistol. (Chainsword is ptobably better in twisted helix for S4.)

What do you think of the Stubber Heavy weapons? Is is pretty much that if you take the squad 50 point squad you are pott comited to taking the mining laser? 2 stubber for shooting while holding objective is 'only' 54 points. Greanades are optional pushing it to 60. But grenades gives you 24 shooting for anything coming close to you.

My closest comparison would be a brood brother squad at 40 points + heavy weapon. Or the tyranid ripper swarm at 33 points whos only job is grabbing an objektive. (And perhaps get behind enemy lines. Also, the ripper swarm.is not infantery. So it can mess up titans trying to walk over them.)

[kazetanade]

It depends on how you plan to use them. I drop Neophytes danger close as much as Acolytes, so Webber's have had great impact. A 5 unit drop of Lasers and Webber's have wiped Aggressors for me. Webbers are great at forcing marine saves while you focus on the big rank at the back. since you have d3 S4 autohits. Krak has never done much for me, on account of 4+ to hit single shot despite wounding better.

If they're planned to be sitting max range at all times, then GLs are better since you pelt from miles away.

At 1pt Wbbers are no brainers IMO, but back to how u wanna use them.