Stealers/Ridgerunner list walkthrough/guide

[N.I.B.]

Alex Macdougall's build, article in the link below

Kraken Tyranid Battalion
Swarmlord
Broodlord

20 Genestealers
16 Genestealers
3 Rippers


Kronos Tyranid Battalion
Neurothrope
Neurothrope

10 Termagants
10 Termagants
10 Termagants

6 Hive Guard


Mixed Genestealer Cult Outrider
Jackal Alphus (Warlord)

3 Achilles Ridgerunners. All with Mining laser, 1 with a spotter and 2 with flare launchers
3 Achilles Ridgerunners. All with Mining laser, 1 with a spotter and 2 with flare launchers
2 Achilles Ridgerunners. Both with Mining laser, both with flare launchers

A 4 armed Emperor Sanctus for access to A Plan Generations in the Making

Guide - www.frontlinegaming.org/2020/02/20/how-to-play-ridge-runners/

[purestrain]

So what its saying is anyone with character killing and 37" range can easily destroy this list? Like its combo Is the alphus so you actually hit stuff, kill her and you're essentially neutered?

I still dont think this is good stuff, its just a flash in the pan as the meta shifts.

I mean, just militarum tempestas can finish them off easily, model to model with rapid fire plasma.

Catachan battle cannons, any artillery will drop them like butter.

Very confusing list

[murderfiesta]

I'm not sure it's that simple Purestrain.

The Genestealer Slingshot should be Dead on Arrival against any Space Marine player with a Thunderfire Cannon, but having access to Vect means there's the option for those Stealers to not be slowed turn 1. That can create a lot of target priority issues for a player. Past that, even if you kill the Alphus all of the Ridgerunners are Hivecult, which means after they deal 1 wound to a target you spend 2 CP to give all other Hivecult units shooting at that same target +1 to hit. 8 Ridgerunners puts out a pretty decent amount of firepower for the cost, and I think the main tech innovation specified in that article is the willingness to use lone Ridgerunners to charge enemy units and tie them up. There's a lot of flexibility to this list, and the ability for the Ridgerunners to be super annoying in the movement and charge phases even if they're below the necessary mass to cause a lot of damage shouldn't be underestimated.

I also think the Ridgerunners are slightly more durable than you give them credit for. They're not SUPER durable - 8 wounds at toughness 5 isn't fantastic, but with a 6+++ it means a unit of militarum tempestus with 2 plasma guns is unlikely to straight up kill a full Ridgerunner. A Basilisk only deals d3 damage per shot and is also unlikely to kill a full Ridgerunner. And there's 8 of them (64 wounds - effectively 76.8 once you factor in the 6+++), for less than 500 points, which is not a bad price.

[bigpig]

I remember reading the original post by the author and he said that first turn was vital on a couple games. I think with the new missions and the ability to deploy defensively if you KNOW you are going second it can mitigate this a bit so not directly DOA. I'm not sure I'm sold on the RR list as the grail, but I think it is a viable option that can do well. Will be giving it a go in a bit. Running board control swarm tomorrow so thats by try for now

[purestrain]

The myriad of stunners hitting on 2+ rr1s is quite nice, I just think the new psi tempestas guys are going to kill two of them with EPS (elimination protocol sanctioned) and make the third take a -4 morale check, forcing excess cp expendature. Unless you have patty running counter charges, then it would be safe but that's an expensive castle is it not?

[kazetanade]

Ridgerunners is a fat block of wounds on the table that can also do damage - they're not the main threat, they're the distraction carnifex (that also gives out max points). Use them as a utility pick and be ready to sacrifice them.

Genestealers are on standby, basically waiting for the opportune moment to wreak havoc. Up to the general to figure out when is their best moment to shine, keep them safe til then.

Hive Guard are the piece de resistance - the all star carry that cant afford to die.

It's basically a super-tuned no fat list that has to, as always, play perfectly in order to deal with the mess that is easier armies. EDIT: memmory derp. It was Alex, and I read it on Art of War, not Goonhammer. It's the same one as shared by NIB.

It's no means a magic winner, it just gives you tools to deal with things we dont deal with too well and hope for the best.

[dandc]

If someone could produce a walk through on finding the cash to fritter on 8 ridge runners for as long as they work in the meta, that would be good!!

[sneggy]

Feb 24, 2020 10:31:35 GMT dandc said:

If someone could produce a walk through on finding the cash to fritter on 8 ridge runners for as long as they work in the meta, that would be good!!

You don't need both kidneys

[mule]

Im betting that theyll be cheap on ebay when the box comes out.

[hivefleetkerrigan]

Feb 24, 2020 14:05:10 GMT mule said:

Im betting that theyll be cheap on ebay when the box comes out.

I don't think so as it's now a part of a well known netlist that performed well at LVO. The start collecting box is already out and eBay prices appear pretty constant. Also, GW was showing that ridge runners were sold out which usually leads to a price bump.

[purestrain]

God I wish Drive by demo was just a Biker unit, the new custom cult with +1 str to grenades would work great, wounding plenty of things if you have the alphus giving you a +1 hit.

But GW gotta GW

[bigpig]

Feb 25, 2020 14:51:40 GMT purestrain said:

God I wish Drive by demo was just a Biker unit, the new custom cult with +1 str to grenades would work great, wounding plenty of things if you have the alphus giving you a +1 hit.

But GW gotta GW

successor chapters for not just marines would do it as well. Kind of like splinter fleet.... but nooooo

[mattblowers]

Feb 25, 2020 17:33:54 GMT bigpig said:

Feb 25, 2020 14:51:40 GMT purestrain said:

God I wish Drive by demo was just a Biker unit, the new custom cult with +1 str to grenades would work great, wounding plenty of things if you have the alphus giving you a +1 hit.

But GW gotta GW

successor chapters for not just marines would do it as well. Kind of like splinter fleet.... but nooooo

Wut? You want nice rules?! Sheesh, you guys want everything. We already have nice models.

[xsquidz]

Feb 25, 2020 20:04:58 GMT mattblowers said:

Feb 25, 2020 17:33:54 GMT bigpig said:

successor chapters for not just marines would do it as well. Kind of like splinter fleet.... but nooooo

Wut? You want nice rules?! Sheesh, you guys want everything. We already have nice models.

Can't have both!!!  That is why marine models look like garbage IMO.  Who wants to play a stupid marine when you can be a sweet sweet alien tearing things apart with sharp teeth.  Choice is obvious for me.

[mattblowers]

Feb 25, 2020 20:30:10 GMT xsquidz said:

Can't have both!!!  That is why marine models look like garbage IMO.  Who wants to play a stupid marine when you can be a sweet sweet alien tearing LOOKING like they could be tearing things apart with sharp teeth.  Choice is obvious for me.

FIxed it for you.