Most powerful Psykers

[originaltyranid]

The community site has an article on the most powerful Psykers in the universe.

One of the entries is listed as the only person to psychicly touch the hive mind and not die....Doesnt that imply the Hive mind is the greatest?

For all the fluff of how overwhelming the hive mind is and how bad shadow in the warp is... Nids are pretty Psy weak (6 powers plus one if specific hive fleet)

And shadow in the warp is a freaking joke. So many psykers have off setting pluses it does practically nothing.

[killercroc]

Fluff vs Rules. Fluff wise The Hive Mind is pretty powerful, like scrambling Vox and popping psykers across systems. In game, -1 to cast. Much realistic.

Though it depends, I'd say Tzeentch is probably the most powerful psyker but he's a Chaos God so does that even count? Big E was also a hot shot but now he's draining that NHS faster than all the migrants in the UK so he's out. Next would be Magnus if you're counting daemon touched super juicers. Arhiman is pretty psychicly stonk while still being human if memory serves. Tigurius is pretty powerful but I think that's the limit of how far non corrupted humans. But then Eldar psykers are more powerful still but like all round psykers not outright powers. Like I can't remember her name but one Farseer could see like hundreds if not thousands of years into the fututre and you gotta have some big brain muscles for that.

[mattblowers]

Jan 17, 2020 16:54:49 GMT killercroc said:

Like I can't remember her name but one Farseer could see like hundreds if not thousands of years into the fututre and you gotta have some big brain muscles for that.

Eldrad?

[killercroc]

I mean it's possible, but I think it was from a novel not one of the codex lore pieces and it's been a while since I read it, but I don't think it was Eldard and it might have been a female farseer.

[bolzor]

Ludo-narrative dissonance. When the description of what is happening in the game doesn't match the actual mechanics or experience.

Shadow in the Warp as a base rule is pretty lame by comparison to what we read about. That said, Kronos can turn up the heat on it for CP along with the new BoB strat to cause mortal wounds for failed casting.

[hiveoverall]

Shadow in the warp is what got me 4 th place at a pretty cutthroat tournament in Paris two weeks ago. It enable me to win 20/00 against a Magnus + TSons army first round. Without I would have probably won like 12/08 instead of 20/00. Sometimes you see multiple castings fail due to the -1, and you can deny simply because SiTW transformed your opponents psy roll of 7 into a 6 and tour deny roll is a 7.

You do need to have many things with it though running up the board (warriors or broodlord) though, which not every nid army has.

if it was like in the fluff it would be -4 and peril of the warp on any double rolled 😂. It would draw rivers of salty tears from our food (sorry I meant opponents or friends even sometimes hah hah)

[hivefleetkerrigan]

Agreed with the above post.

Remember, a -1 to a charge roll is a huge deal. A -1 to cast is the same thing. Even if your opponent has a +1 to cast, you're still negating some of their bonuses. Anytime you can make your opponents life harder is good in a wargame.

[naviedzony]

Shadow in the Warp is ok, rule-wise, but what makes it not working for me is a range. It's really not a big deal to an opponent to just move his psyker out of shadow range and cast.

[hivefleetkerrigan]

Jan 20, 2020 7:13:09 GMT naviedzony said:

Shadow in the Warp is ok, rule-wise, but what makes it not working for me is a range. It's really not a big deal to an opponent to just move his psyker out of shadow range and cast.

It's the same for denial as well: move outside of range to ignore. However, both rules give you an element of board control. If you're forcing your opponent to be outside of range, you're mitigating they're effectiveness.

[naviedzony]

It's true, but I find the SITW range just a bit too restrictive.