HIVE GAURD

[drrickmarshall]

hive gaurd are the best i currently always run a unit of 6, does anyone here ever run more and or max them out with 3x6? i feel like in kronos that would be extremely good, if only they werent like $150 for a unit of 6

[mule]

Guarantee you, everyone who plays nids here has at least 6 hiveguard.

40k is an expensive hobby and nids are an expensive army. Sorry.

[drrickmarshall]

Dec 28, 2019 1:50:45 GMT mule said:

Guarantee you, everyone who plays nids here has at least 6 hiveguard.

40k is an expensive hobby and nids are an expensive army. Sorry.

yeah i get it, justseeing if anyone does ever feild a bunch of them. considering getting another 6 at some point, at least grabbing a second exocrine thouigh they are also great. 

[nintura]

Dec 28, 2019 1:50:45 GMT mule said:

Guarantee you, everyone who plays nids here has at least 6 hiveguard.

40k is an expensive hobby and nids are an expensive army. Sorry.

i own over 400 models and not a single hive guard lol.

[kazetanade]

I've got 15, personally. Odd number, I know. I'm 1 box short haha

[hiveoverall]

I own 9 and I really think 2*6 is enough. Especially now that you can adapt two to resist I direct fire really well

[1b2a]

I own 18. I tried 18 vs iron hands. He went first and blew away all of them in one turn lol. Honestly only the six that shoot twice are really good. The others are expensive for only 12 shots. I do bring 12 in some lists, simply as a backup for the first squad. 18 is impossible to hide. A full warrior squad is cheaper and has the same damage output actually (3 venoms are 3 hg basically and 6 deathspitters are about 3 other venoms math-wise)

[drrickmarshall]

Dec 28, 2019 2:11:13 GMT nintura said:

Dec 28, 2019 1:50:45 GMT mule said:

Guarantee you, everyone who plays nids here has at least 6 hiveguard.

40k is an expensive hobby and nids are an expensive army. Sorry.

i own over 400 models and not a single hive guard lol.

oh no! grab some they are crucial for nids, and such cool models in my opinion!

[drrickmarshall]

Dec 28, 2019 8:57:49 GMT 1b2a said:

I own 18. I tried 18 vs iron hands. He went first and blew away all of them in one turn lol. Honestly only the six that shoot twice are really good. The others are expensive for only 12 shots. I do bring 12 in some lists, simply as a backup for the first squad. 18 is impossible to hide. A full warrior squad is cheaper and has the same damage output actually (3 venoms are 3 hg basically and 6 deathspitters are about 3 other venoms math-wise)

yeah some times they can wiff but in kronos they almost always do serious damage, im seriously thinking about another 6, at least for more competitive games, because last game my normal 6 and an exo erased two deredeos easily. the kronos exploding 6s new psychic power is great on them.

[1b2a]

Jan 7, 2020 1:49:30 GMT drrickmarshall said:

Dec 28, 2019 8:57:49 GMT 1b2a said:

I own 18. I tried 18 vs iron hands. He went first and blew away all of them in one turn lol. Honestly only the six that shoot twice are really good. The others are expensive for only 12 shots. I do bring 12 in some lists, simply as a backup for the first squad. 18 is impossible to hide. A full warrior squad is cheaper and has the same damage output actually (3 venoms are 3 hg basically and 6 deathspitters are about 3 other venoms math-wise)

yeah some times they can wiff but in kronos they almost always do serious damage, im seriously thinking about another 6, at least for more competitive games, because last game my normal 6 and an exo erased two deredeos easily. the kronos exploding 6s new psychic power is great on them.

It really is. Exploding 6s give you that extra bit of firepower necessary, especially with 2x shot

[naviedzony]

With recent changes to meta i'm really tempted to just go 18 Hive Guards and an Exocrine in Kronos detachment.

[mule]

You wont be able to hide 18 hive guard

[kelermorph]

Jan 7, 2020 9:05:22 GMT mule said:

You wont be able to hide 18 hive guard

Drop them somewhere via drop pod(the fleshy kind). Or deliver in jorm detachment via taxi.

[xsquidz]

Jan 7, 2020 10:44:40 GMT kelermorph said:

Jan 7, 2020 9:05:22 GMT mule said:

You wont be able to hide 18 hive guard

Drop them somewhere via drop pod(the fleshy kind). Or deliver in jorm detachment via taxi.

If you take the hive guard as jorm they lose out on re-roll 1's to hit (if they don't move) and can't use the exploding 6's Kronos only power.

[mattblowers]

1 unit of 6 is the right number. I have 15 and I've run that many. If you really feel the need to run more than 1 unit 1 x 6 and 1 x 3 are pretty decent. You just quickly have diminishing returns. 2 units of 6 is not twice the effectiveness. Honestly, if we didn't have a shoot 2x strategy I'm not sure how popular they would be. With the shoot 2x strats you get the value of 12 at the price of 6. My current list has 1 unit of 6 and 3 exocrines. Try it out and let us know, but I think you'll find it not as good as you imagine.