Genestealer Cult new units

[swarm492]

Me: Hey..I know we have had our ups and downs, and I know we have fallen on hard times but I really want to make things better between us. I have something I really want to show you.

Wallet: What is it?

Me: It's a surprise...

[russellr]

I'm really unsure about those bikes. Bikes with neophytes with bad guns are a great way to waste points, so I hope they're not just that.
The quad bikes could be good, if they're a separate unit and good value.

Still, they won't be able to CA ... and will CA and RTTS be back to remind us of the good old days? Or will ir just be a meh version like we currently have, and some meh bike units to try to persuade us that we should be happy?

I'm trying not to be negative about these guys, and I'm really hoping they return to the original feeling, but ... I just have a bad feeling that the new shinies will be over-costed and we'll still feel bad.

[bansh]

^this is the thing....already have access to crumby weapons on a crumby chassis....sorry neophytes

Do i want to pay more to have either t4 crumby chassis or 2w crumby chassis
...
Not entirely sure....if i can jihad Jeep the bejesus out of em like a hellhound id be all in....

[wormlord666]

Nov 25, 2018 4:33:44 GMT russellr said:

I'm trying not to be negative about these guys.

You’re not doing great at not beeing negative. 😉

The character looks cool, a meticulus planner.

A biker sniper is a cool Idea and we do need snipers.

[No One]

hivefleetkerrigan said:

Their post said "you're next" for GSC. I didn't see anything on the date though

Well, depends on if they count beta-Sisters/CA or not. And if Chapter Approved 2018 ends up like the March FAQ . Could be anywhere from early December to Feb probably.

russellr said:

I'm really unsure about those bikes. Bikes with neophytes with bad guns are a great way to waste points, so I hope they're not just that.

Neophytes aren't bad (their shooty is meh, but so is a termagant's). And adding more mobility could make them better (e.g. similar role to gargs). Just...if they're more mobile than standard neophytes, then CA is probably terrible and the army will still be bad (or they also have CA, which could admittedly be pretty neat).

and will CA and RTTS be back to remind us of the good old days?

I doubt it on RTTS, but:

Cult Ambush is getting something turn 1 - not the full deep strike like it was pre-FAQ, but "something more" than just a 9" pre-game movement (a la Alpha Legion/Stygies/Raven Guard).

Gives me some hope: a fixed CA and units is all we need. RTTS would still be great though.

wormlord666 said:

A biker sniper is a cool Idea and we do need snipers.

Do we? When was the last time you saw snipers taken, and actually be effective at sniping? Because for me, personally I've only ever seen them being taken as DS screens (rangers/scouts/ratlings). With the exception of an ETC tournament in early 8th with ratling spam. A bike sniper character is not going to be cheap enough to compete with ratling spam in effective sniping. Cool idea, likely pointless execution.

[sunshine]

Those bikes though! Super pumped for new cult stuff!

[FTGT-BeeCee]

They really have the GLF thing down for GSC. I expect the bikes to be cheap and cheap fast skirmishers are never a bad thing, especially if they have an outflank type option.

I am supremely pumped for this release and I am all in on GSC. They will likely be the only army I play in 2019.

[broyston]

Just wondering if planner dude, sniper lady and quick draw McGraw are named special characters. If they are they might be sub-faction locked like in other armies, i.e. sniper lady might only be a choice in a cult of the bladed cog detachment for example. Not a disaster but I have got used to flexibility of Nid SC being cross sub-faction.

[brexan]

Nov 25, 2018 8:57:10 GMT broyston said:

Just wondering if planner dude, sniper lady and quick draw McGraw are named special characters. If they are they might be sub-faction locked like in other armies, i.e. sniper lady might only be a choice in a cult of the bladed cog detachment for example. Not a disaster but I have got used to flexibility of Nid SC being cross sub-faction.

I hope that’s not the case, even with the new stuff our choices are somewhat limited.

Also in my view the lore of GSCs doesn’t really fit named characters - with everyone getting devoured once the hive fleet arrives your heroes are all dying. Some may escape off planet but it would seem clunky to join a developed cult elsewhere.

Either way I’m really excited for these new units, I’ve got a small GSC force I’m eager to expand with less reliance on Guard/Tyranids.

[kazetanade]

For the record, there have been successful insurrection prior to a Hive fleet makigg it to the planet, and the Primus tends to ship himself and his armies to other planets to start up new extension Cults elsewhere. Its not an unknown thing to happen.

[jesses]

Oh my god Hive Bahamut, does GW read our wishlist posts? With no evidence whatsoever I'm going to pretend they do and that you and I made GSC dirtbikes happen XD

No One, sniper squads tend to all suck, but the only sniper named character I can think of is Illic Nightspear, and he is actually damn good. BS2+ Range 48" S4 AP-3 D:3, always Wounds on a 2+ unless against vehicles, and retains the can target characters rules. The only reason you don't see him all the time is his best targets were Commissars and the like, and they dissappeared from the meta. So there is precedent for a named character sniper to be pretty good.

If Necrons get their points values fixed, amd we are good, I expect to see snipers move back into the meta since armies that rely on character spam will be becoming more prevalent.

Not saying she's guaranteed to be good, but I'm hopeful. If she is named, it will really depend on if we get subfaction traits, and if hers is any good.

[dan3dim]

I am really hope new broodbrothers Regiment is sub-Faction for Astra Militirum codex. Not need to have GSC include in detachment. ( more rooms for super heavy and fortification ) and add broodbrothers units that can only add to broodbrothers Regiment, not GSC ( no other Regiment allow take that ) just like Regiment named characters, knight pesk, etc.

[swarm492]

I think the bikes would be a good reaction force. And if they fixed the trucks they could be a great assistance to them. Riding with stealers, tagging units, plugging gaps, rescuing characters. As long as their rough rider ish I dont think they will go over to badly

[purestrain]

Nov 25, 2018 13:08:02 GMT swarm492 said:

I think the bikes would be a good reaction force. And if they fixed the trucks they could be a great assistance to them. Riding with stealers, tagging units, plugging gaps, rescuing characters. As long as their rough rider ish I dont think they will go over to badly

It was said somewhere that they're getting a points reduction because if you wanted to get guys across the field you'd use cult ambush

[kazetanade]

it was said recently that all the tidbits we got before were fake leaks, so we're going to have to be patient to see what really comes out.