-1 ro hit change rumor

[snakezenn1]

Hey guys, so normally I wouldn't post something like this but in general this guy has been spot on about changes that he posts on his youtube channel for rumors. He's saying that the -1 to hit traits are probably going to be changing to the cover bonus like jorm. Salt as always for rumors.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxzvvZBViYY&t=1s

If true what do you guys/gals think? I think it will be a nice change to the game for lower BS armies and balance out the different chapter tactic equivalent.

Ps. if posted elsewhere i did not see it.

[25below]

I’ve always disliked the mechanics of the cover save and felt it was a waste as it is currently applied. From my prospective I’ve always felt it should have impacted the to-hit roll rather than wasted like it is today. So, this rumor does not set well with me, except for the salt.

[Hive Bahamut]

It has been kind of a pattern following the books, that it seems their intent. I believe Smarties (Never called Astartes that.. It makes sense actually..) Spikey Smarties and Eldar were the only factions to receive -1 and they were the first books. Since Nids they have done +1 Armour instead. Tau, Admech, Orkz etc.

1 is extremely powerful
1 is situationally garbage

As long as everyone is on the same page I care not which one, although cover adding +1 to 3+ is sexy.. Adding it to 6+ is.. Meaningless. I don't think it is an appropriate fix either, but that's just me.

[tomcaet]

Admech got both the cover (canticle) and -1 to hit (Dogma), we got the to hit in the form of Venoms and Kraken relic.

[bobnid]

Lictor and Deathleaper got it too

[Hive Bahamut]

I believe Nids have the most access to it, ironically enough not from a single thing that flies like most other armies, and not stacking, which the latter is fine.

Malanthrope
Venomthropes
Chameleonic Mutation
Deathleaper
Lictor
Gargoyles

Horror
Mass Hypnosis

Leman Russ/Chimera 1 turn

We also have Heightened Senses which is one of the few ways to ignore all of them.

[mattblowers]

This seems unlikely to me. The new orks codex overcharged weapon only kills on an unmodified hit roll of 1. I think this is more likely a sign of things to come.

Above that, I think it more reasonable that -1 to hits will not stack, just like cover does not stack. -2 to hit things bad for the game. It's the reason you Alatioc Eldar is the only craftworld buzzing around tabletops.

[Threeshades]

The -1 to hit reduces incoming damage by a lot more than 16%. It reduces damage by at least 20% if the attackers naturally hit on 2+, 25% if they normally hit on 3+, 33% if they normally have 4+, 50% if they normally hit on 5s, and 100% if they would hit on 6s.

It skews the ranged game massively against low BS armies. And I totally see this change as being real. Counting as being in cover is probably a bit underwhelming though. Especially since that negates the benefits of actual cover.

It also messes with the dynamic they set up, where you get better saves if you have a physical barrier covering, you or a penalty to the opponents attack roll if you are hard to see.

[gigasnail]

ya'll sure are excited about some unsubstantiated rumors.

[nidzy]

Nov 5, 2018 4:02:36 GMT gigasnail said:

ya'll sure are excited about some unsubstantiated rumors.

Point me toward a new GSC rumor and see if I don't LOSE MY (please do not swear) MIND.

I agree with Mattblowers above that simply removing -2 to hit from the game would be a big improvement and equalizer. Eldar would still be good but their lists would be more diverse. Orks would still be...orks, and maybe there would be some pure guard players at top tables. Tyranids would only get better not having to shoot at -2 and keeping the same benefits they have...for once.