magnetizing questions

[patata]

Hello,wanted to magnetize my hyve tyrant/tyrannofex  weapons and wings(possibly),i found this list


yrant body : Upper holes : 1/4 (6mm), lower holes 3/16(5mm)
Tyrant weapons : 1/8(3mm) is the suggested norm, but i found it lacked a bit ot holding power and used 2/5(4mm)
Tyrant wings : 3/16 magnets can fit in but requires careful drilling, you'll be safer with 2/5 tho.
About the wings, i found an alternative to pinning. If you glue the shoulder bitz, the wings will be held in place.
Tyrannofex : i used 1/4 magnets holding 1kg in the body but it was overkill.


are these good?should i drill the holes,then use green stuff to secure them or glue them in?

should i use multiple magnets for larger pieces?

what changes between n45 and n52 magnets?


also are 4 5 6 mm magnets enough for everything?and should they be 1mm or 2mm thick?

[Overread]

A few general thoughts

1) The bigger the n number the more powerful the magnet - so an n52 is going to be stronger than an n45. Generally the stronger the magnet the better as it will give a firmer hold and might let you use less/smaller magnets in some cases.

2) When I've used magnets I drill out the hole for both parts to be magnetized. Because of the shape of drills this means that there is often a small cone shape at the middle of the drill hole (where the pint of the drill bit went into). So I use a tiny bit of greenstuff in that spot (really tiny) and then put a drop of superglue in and then the magnet right on top fast after that. Note it helps to score the surface of the magnet that is to be glued - scored surfaces give you more surface area and increased variety of angles which all helps superglue get a good firm lock on what its holding.

I can't comment on sizes.

[tomcaet]

Those are bigger than things I magnetised, I only used round around 3mm up to 5, 1mm thick N38 - they were noticeably cheaper than others. Can't help with how strong ones you need here.

I don't use GS so far, just holes. Generally on both ends so that magnets sit level with the surface, but might depend on the joint. Most drills do make the cone shape but there exist flat bottom drills - they're harder to use (generally I use one only after a regular anyway) but are nice when you don't have a lot of material and don't want to drill through.

I use a lot of magnets, sockets and extremities in a model quickly add up. If you mean using multiple in a single joint, using a single one on each side with the total thickness right away (so say, a 5x2 instead of two 5x1) will be cheaper and probably stronger, but personally, I don't have that big of an inventory of those and stack the 1mm thick ones if I want the connection to be stronger. Although I only did that so far where adding thickness wasn't an issue, like covered insides of vehicles.

The bigger the task the bigger the suitable magnet, I try to solve most by 3x1 but when not drilling I use more 5x1. Worked up to a Leman Russ so far.

[brast]

Concerning strongness and Diameter: i use the biggest ones i can cram into the socket on the main body (wich may include some greenstuff on the inside of the plastic shell to get enough material to hold on to for the magnet). and as said above, the higher the number the stronger the magnet, which is especially important on for example the rupture cannon, since it is a rather large piece of front heavy plastic...

But what i recommend massivley and above all is to use slightly smaller magnets (in diameter) for the limbs in comparison to the ones used in the thorso. if the magnets have equal size and you drilled the hole slightly too deep the magnet on the limb is prone to get stuck in this hole and break off of the limb it is supposed to hold on to... did cost me some precious hours of my life fiddling around with knifes and such to get the stuck magnet out of the socket. If one of the magnets is smaller than the other this is almost impossible to happen.

and as an afterthought: i would consider a pin in addition to the magnets on the Hive Tyrants wings. this will give the part a huge increase in stability, which i deem useful on parts whith a long "Lever" of sorts, such as toxicrene lashes or the aformentioned wings.

i hope this helps you to avoid my mistakes.

[mattblowers]

The more I play the more convinced I am that magnetization should be reserved for a only a few things. T-fexes and carnifexes and our flyers are 2 units that are pretty conducive to magnetization. Outside of that I typically just prefer buying more models. magnets are just such a hassel. Where do you store them? How do you keep them from coming off at tournaments or in transport? If you drop a magetized model/weapon quite often the magnet pops off. If in unit of warriors/raveners etc. how to you keep them from flying together and doing the shoulder-shoulder shuffle?

For me it's typically just not worth the hassle.

[Remalis]

Nov 14, 2018 12:34:16 GMT mattblowers said:

The more I play the more convinced I am that magnetization should be reserved for a only a few things. T-fexes and carnifexes and our flyers are 2 units that are pretty conducive to magnetization. Outside of that I typically just prefer buying more models. magnets are just such a hassel. Where do you store them? How do you keep them from coming off at tournaments or in transport? If you drop a magetized model/weapon quite often the magnet pops off. If in unit of warriors/raveners etc. how to you keep them from flying together and doing the shoulder-shoulder shuffle?

For me it's typically just not worth the hassle.

You raise some valid points, but I'm reasonably sure the answer to all your questions posed, is in fact "more magnets"....