Stratagems that happen before/after the turn: IK Nightmare

[nidzy]

So at a friends prompting I looked again at the rules for stratagems in the rulebook pg 215 under the matched play rules for "strategic discipline" which describes stratagem usage.

I was aware that you could use a stratagem multiple times before the start of the game, but this rule also states that you aren't limited to one use for stratagems that happen outside of the phase like "and the end of the battle round," which seems to mean stratagems that are listed as "at the start of your turn" would be allowed to use twice. I am thinking Machine Spirit Resurgent which lets a knight operate at top profile.

Have you folks played any of these or against them and how were they used?

[tomcaet]

Haven't had that played on me, but you're right - that Stratagem isn't limited to one per turn as it's not in any phase. Stratagems like that aren't common and they're easy to miss. It'd be a good deal for the Knights' player if they had the opportunity and CP to use it multiple times.

[mattblowers]

That's legit. If you are playing Questor Mechanicus, kill one knight at a time. As long as there is free CP from AM batteries this is gross. Thanks for the heads up.

[nidzy]

(please do not swear). I was hoping we had an out with this.


Also: I apologize for my failure to use the obvious play on words Imperial Knight-mare.

Also: wouldn't this mean a knight player could play the stratagem again vs agents of vect? Could be a big deal.

[tomcaet]

Sept 12, 2018 18:10:03 GMT nidzy said:

(please do not swear). I was hoping we had an out with this.


Also: I apologize for my failure to use the obvious play on words Imperial Knight-mare.

Also: wouldn't this mean a knight player could play the stratagem again vs agents of vect? Could be a big deal.

I wonder, Vect says the Stratagem cannot be attempted again this phase. If this sentence loses power outside of a phase, then yeah, they could use it again. Then Agents of Vect could be used again as it would also not be during a phase. It wouldn't be a winning game for the elves though.

Vect probably shouldn't be used on that, I'd expect an errata to its last sentence to include Stratagems not used during a phase.