Starting a new tyranid army anything i should know before.

[averagemoe2]

As in other than it's expensive.

[purestrain]

May 6, 2018 14:02:13 GMT averagemoe2 said:

As in other than it's expensive.

Hive guard and tyrannofex for shooting, genestealers and gargoyles for melee requirements. Flyrant went up in cost but are still very effective, spore mines and biovore are great still.

[kazetanade]

If you're looking for casual play, anything goes. You can make a viable strategy out of almost any combination of units for a casual setting.

What exactly are you concerned about or what info you want to know? "WHAT SHOULD I KNOW" is sufficiently vague that i could go "you should know the sky is blue, you can now start a tyranid army". More info is good.

[1b2a]

Learn to magnetize.

[LordPathos]

Purestrain was half way there with the Tyrannofex, but he wasnt specific enough.
As anyone on the forum will tell you, you will want to USE THE FLESHBORER HIVE!!!

[killercroc]

Things to know.

1). Genestealers are best pony. Use them, lots.

2). Maleceptor, Haruspex and Toxicrene are traps, they might look good but they suck hard.

3). Rippers for great cheap troops that can burrow onto objectives.

4). Our HQ options are a little ehh due to limited buffs and high cost, so build you army around them instead of just adding them in. (but not Tervigons, they're trash too outside of open play).

5). Due to the smite nerf don't invest too heavily into psykers, 1 Neuro and Zoan unit is usable but any more you reduce your chance at getting a power off and with their high cost you cannot afford to fail

6). Carnifexes are super fun, play around with them to find a build that works for you.

[EDIT]

Also, never use the the Fleshborer Hive

[infornography]

Watch to make sure you have enough synapse in your list. For a 2000 point army, you want at least 3 to 4 durable synapse sources.

Best general purpose HQs for the points are flyrants and neurothropes. Primes are BARELY usable if you take at least 9 warriors. Broodlords are worth their points if you have at least 20 genestealers. Old One Eye is good but not great, but he gets better if you have other carnifexes to hang with. Walking Tyrants are not bad, but generally the wings upgrade is worth the points.

Our troops are all good, but might not serve intuitive roles.
Warriors are slightly overcosted, but if you use them for both ranged and melee they can make up their points worth.
Rippers are best utilized as minimum sized units with no bells or whistles who can sit in reserve and then pop up on objectives to claim them as needed.
Hormagaunts are good at tying up enemies, but not good at killing them. Use them to surround enemies you don't want shooting at you but aren't dangerous in melee.
Termagants of all flavors are good, and each serves a very different role. Spinefists make them adequate cheap melee combatants, but we have better choices for this role, fleshborers make them good for soaking wounds on the cheap and putting out decent firepower, devourers are straight amazing and can put out more firepower than anything else for their point cost aside from possibly IG mortar teams, but they are fragile and short range so they probably will only get one round of unimpeded shooting before getting assaulted or mowed down.
Genestealers are our best shock troops and can shred most infantry in melee.

In elites we have a lot of garbage, but Hive Guard are amazing with either gun. Pyrovores make decent slot fillers for cheap but otherwise are not impressive. Everything else is overcosted or ineffectual.

Fast attack is also light on good choices, but gargoyles are the clear winners here. They are good at crossing the board quickly and tying up enemies as well and adequate at shooting for a very cheap pricetag.
Raveners are also good, mostly as a Jormungandr taxi for genestealers or warriors, but they can hold their own in a fight, especially if you give them deathspitters.

Heavy is loaded with good options.
Carnifexes are versatile and durable, especially with quad devourers and enhanced senses or scything talons and tusks. Pretty much every single one needs spore cysts and bone maces are a solid option for cheap for a little extra melee punch. Heavy Venom Cannons and Crushing Claws are expensive options but really make tank hunting a lot better if you need it.
Exocrines are really solid elite and light tank hunters.
Tyrannofexen are quite good with either the rupture cannon for heavy tank hunting or acid spray for elite and light tank hunting duties.
Biovores are good, but since the FAQ, overcosted for their contributions. Some people still swear by them but they generally don't put out enough wounds to be worth it.
Trygons and Trygon Primes are good, but expensive. They make good taxis and the prime upgrade while pricey can provide good synapse for a devourer tergmagant bomb. Pop them up, shoot with 30 devilgaunts, then use the strategem to shoot again, then attempt to charge with the trygon to keep whatever lives from immediately charging the termagants.

Our flyers are hot garbage and not worth your time, move along.

Our one and only structure is a good one, the Sporocyst generates spore mines on the cheap.

Our one and only dedicated transport isn't bad, but is a bit overcosted for what it contributes given the number of taxi options we already have. Still, you could do worse.

[guy]

May 6, 2018 14:02:13 GMT averagemoe2 said:

As in other than it's expensive.

Big monsters are baits for enemy's lascannons, and can rarely be played past turn 1, let alone 2. Bringing big swarms and 9- wounds characters is hell for shooty armies, but very boring to play for you.

[mattblowers]

May 7, 2018 18:20:41 GMT guy said:

May 6, 2018 14:02:13 GMT averagemoe2 said:

As in other than it's expensive.

Big monsters are baits for enemy's lascannons, and can rarely be played past turn 1, let alone 2.

LOS blocking terrain. I single large terrain placed in the center of the table does wonders to change the game. If you don't have it, then things go south quickly.

[gigasnail]

Learn to love terrain. Learn to magnetize. Don't get caught up on fluff vs. unit performance on the table. Keep up to date on the FAQ's and don't try to overthink the rules.

[LordPathos]

May 7, 2018 14:21:39 GMT killercroc said:

[EDIT]

Also, never use the the Fleshborer Hive

[shortymcnostrill]

May 7, 2018 14:01:15 GMT 1b2a said:

Learn to magnetize.

This. I've been playing nids for 18 years now, and never learned this till last year. I thought it would be difficult and expensive, and I didn't really care about wysiwyg.

It wasn't difficult to learn/do at all, nor was it expensive. I care more about wysiwyg now too, so I really wish I learned how to magnetize sooner!


* I wouldn't bother with anything under at least warrior size

[leopard]

One thing I wish someone told me before I started

take the GW bases and forget about them, laser cut MDF, with steel sections below on the larger bases and just steel discs on smaller 25mm bases - makes storing on magnetised rubber sheets so much easier for transport.

awkward for models that come with slot bases, but you can stick the strip to the MDF base and build basing material up around it

[averagemoe2]

Thanks for the help guy's i will putt it to good use:)

[guy]

May 8, 2018 19:34:37 GMT leopard said:

One thing I wish someone told me before I started

take the GW bases and forget about them, laser cut MDF, with steel sections below on the larger bases and just steel discs on smaller 25mm bases - makes storing on magnetised rubber sheets so much easier for transport.

awkward for models that come with slot bases, but you can stick the strip to the MDF base and build basing material up around it

I don't understand a word you're saying, but it sounds interesting. Can you post a picture or a tutorial maybe ? Thanks.