Post by baldwam on Feb 1, 2018 18:40:38 GMT
Decided to branch out from tyranids a little bit and got into the army that is about our polar opposite: adeptus custodes. Last night I played my first game with my shiny new custodes as a 500 pt game where my opponent brought Guilliman just for the lulz.
This got me thinking about possibly using The Avenging Son in an otherwise all custodes list, so I immediately got theorycrafting.
++ Battalion Detachment +3CP (Imperium - Adeptus Custodes) [82 PL, 1612pts] ++
+ HQ +
Shield Captain in Allarus Terminator Armor [8 PL, 148pts]: Castellan Axe, Misericordia
Shield-Captain on Dawneagle Jetbike [9 PL, 164pts]: Hurricane Bolter, Misericordia
+ Elites +
Allarus Custodians [13 PL, 264pts]
. Allarus Custodian: Castellan Axe, Misericordia
. Allarus Custodian: Castellan Axe, Misericordia
. Allarus Custodian: Castellan Axe, Misericordia
Vexillus Praetor [6 PL, 129pts]: Misericordia, Storm Shield, Vexilla Magnifica
Vexillus Praetor in Allarus Terminator Armor [7 PL, 120pts]: Vexilla Defensor
+ Fast Attack +
Vertus Praetors [15 PL, 274pts]
. Vertus Praetor: Hurricane Bolter, Misericordia
. Vertus Praetor: Hurricane Bolter
. Vertus Praetor: Hurricane Bolter
+ Troops +
Custodian Guard Squad [8 PL, 171pts]
. Custodian: Sentinel Blade, Storm Shield
. Custodian: Guardian Spear, Misericordia
. Custodian: Guardian Spear, Misericordia
Custodian Guard Squad [8 PL, 171pts]
. Custodian: Sentinel Blade, Storm Shield
. Custodian: Guardian Spear, Misericordia
. Custodian: Guardian Spear, Misericordia
Custodian Guard Squad [8 PL, 171pts]
. Custodian: Sentinel Blade, Storm Shield
. Custodian: Guardian Spear, Misericordia
. Custodian: Guardian Spear, Misericordia
++ Super-Heavy Auxiliary Detachment (Imperium - Space Marines) [18 PL, 385pts] ++
+ Lord of War +
Roboute Guilliman [18 PL, 385pts]
++ Total: [100 PL, 1997pts] ++
Now, here's the reasoning behind Guilliman's inclusion in this list: one major problem custodes has is that they have a lot of great stratagems to use, but not enough cp to use them. If I make Big Bobby G the warlord in this list, the bananamen all of a sudden get 9 cps to spend things on, and with Gooeyman's warlord trait this list on average gets 13 cps. And the icing on the cake is that the Rowboat still gives the custards the functionality of a shield captain, but with even more dakka and melee.
The ideal way to play this list would likely be to have all the guard gather around Gigglyman and the magnifica vexilla to make them a slowy advancing line of ok shooting and spectacular melee, while having enough durability to cross the board if need be. The jetbikes would serve as quick objective grabbers and crowd control with their hurricane bolters, and the units in allarus armor would work together to either deepstrike onto a vital objective, or would more likely go hunting monsters, vehicles, or characters, and the vexilla defensor would give them 5 s8 ap -2 d3 attacks to do it with, and the potential to drop 3" away from an enemy.
The one thing that this list does lose is the ability to take a relic, but I think that Guilliman more than makes up for that loss by more than doubling the theoretical cp this list gets. Thoughts on using the avenging son with custodes?
This got me thinking about possibly using The Avenging Son in an otherwise all custodes list, so I immediately got theorycrafting.
++ Battalion Detachment +3CP (Imperium - Adeptus Custodes) [82 PL, 1612pts] ++
+ HQ +
Shield Captain in Allarus Terminator Armor [8 PL, 148pts]: Castellan Axe, Misericordia
Shield-Captain on Dawneagle Jetbike [9 PL, 164pts]: Hurricane Bolter, Misericordia
+ Elites +
Allarus Custodians [13 PL, 264pts]
. Allarus Custodian: Castellan Axe, Misericordia
. Allarus Custodian: Castellan Axe, Misericordia
. Allarus Custodian: Castellan Axe, Misericordia
Vexillus Praetor [6 PL, 129pts]: Misericordia, Storm Shield, Vexilla Magnifica
Vexillus Praetor in Allarus Terminator Armor [7 PL, 120pts]: Vexilla Defensor
+ Fast Attack +
Vertus Praetors [15 PL, 274pts]
. Vertus Praetor: Hurricane Bolter, Misericordia
. Vertus Praetor: Hurricane Bolter
. Vertus Praetor: Hurricane Bolter
+ Troops +
Custodian Guard Squad [8 PL, 171pts]
. Custodian: Sentinel Blade, Storm Shield
. Custodian: Guardian Spear, Misericordia
. Custodian: Guardian Spear, Misericordia
Custodian Guard Squad [8 PL, 171pts]
. Custodian: Sentinel Blade, Storm Shield
. Custodian: Guardian Spear, Misericordia
. Custodian: Guardian Spear, Misericordia
Custodian Guard Squad [8 PL, 171pts]
. Custodian: Sentinel Blade, Storm Shield
. Custodian: Guardian Spear, Misericordia
. Custodian: Guardian Spear, Misericordia
++ Super-Heavy Auxiliary Detachment (Imperium - Space Marines) [18 PL, 385pts] ++
+ Lord of War +
Roboute Guilliman [18 PL, 385pts]
++ Total: [100 PL, 1997pts] ++
Now, here's the reasoning behind Guilliman's inclusion in this list: one major problem custodes has is that they have a lot of great stratagems to use, but not enough cp to use them. If I make Big Bobby G the warlord in this list, the bananamen all of a sudden get 9 cps to spend things on, and with Gooeyman's warlord trait this list on average gets 13 cps. And the icing on the cake is that the Rowboat still gives the custards the functionality of a shield captain, but with even more dakka and melee.
The ideal way to play this list would likely be to have all the guard gather around Gigglyman and the magnifica vexilla to make them a slowy advancing line of ok shooting and spectacular melee, while having enough durability to cross the board if need be. The jetbikes would serve as quick objective grabbers and crowd control with their hurricane bolters, and the units in allarus armor would work together to either deepstrike onto a vital objective, or would more likely go hunting monsters, vehicles, or characters, and the vexilla defensor would give them 5 s8 ap -2 d3 attacks to do it with, and the potential to drop 3" away from an enemy.
The one thing that this list does lose is the ability to take a relic, but I think that Guilliman more than makes up for that loss by more than doubling the theoretical cp this list gets. Thoughts on using the avenging son with custodes?