The Tiamet Structure

[NidNoms]

The our new dex, the Hive Fleet of Tiamet seems to be focusing on creating a large biomass structure, but what is it's purpose?  Thought the Ordo Xenos say its a beacon for other Hive Fleets. But what do you guys think?

[rhinotoad]

Its pretty obvious really! its clearly spawning a brand new type of tyranid (dominatrix, heiro-wahtever, idk), will soon be done! then Gw will make a model for it and we will get a lord of war worth playing! HAHAHAHa whatdoyoumeanwishfulthinking

[NidNoms]

Jan 26, 2018 3:06:18 GMT rhinotoad said:

Its pretty obvious really! its clearly spawning a brand new type of tyranid (dominatrix, heiro-wahtever, idk), will soon be done! then Gw will make a model for it and we will get a lord of war worth playing! HAHAHAHa whatdoyoumeanwishfulthinking

lol, i hope your right, so we get give whats coming to the smurfs

[Overread]

I suspect that what we might see is Tyranids start to build an empire of their own instead of pushing through with Hive Fleets. Thus far Tyranid strategy has been to smash a hive fleet through world after world after world, feeding and growing until opposition rises to put it to a stop. At the last instance a whole hive fleet was destroyed by a single vast act of power.

In short Tyranids keep doing huge damage, but keep losing hive fleets. So instead I think what we are seeing is a different approach. The Tyranid force instead shifting to secure and hold systems within the Galaxy as a staging ground. A vast bastion where they can't be pushed back from and where they can gather power; maybe even a place where damaged hive fleets can retreat too to repair, heal and then strike out again.

It could also be that Tyranids are considering that if they create a focus of power it will attract power toward it from their enemies - ergo instead of the Hive Fleets charging in, they instead force their enemies to come to them and fight on their terms- because who wants to let the Hive establish worlds within the galaxy.



Another considering is that since a demonic impact was what dealt with the last hive fleet; the hive might be considering creating a huge beacon that acts like a mighty "shadow in the warp" to block a huge area from the influence of chaos - maybe even able to project it forward to protect fleets invading.

[LordPathos]

Isnt tiamat also kinda like kronos that they dont like daemons? Maybe they are making their own version of the pylons that kept Chaos out.

Nids. Healing the galaxy it wants to eat.

[joysan76]

by the codex, tiamet seems to be arrived many centuries before beemoth and only recentoy has been discovered... so the psichic apparatus they are building may be like a light guiding here the other tendrils lost in the space extragalactic, and in effect compared to the first invasions now seems that tyranid biofleet are coming from everywhere...

in the codex we have ouroboris and tiamet described as Bg but not as rule... i may suppose in future campaign already written that will introduce them properly (with their own set of rules, stratagem and artifacts)

we will see

[NidNoms]

Jan 29, 2018 15:19:18 GMT joysan76 said:

by the codex, tiamet seems to be arrived many centuries before beemoth and only recentoy has been discovered... so the psichic apparatus they are building may be like a light guiding here the other tendrils lost in the space extragalactic, and in effect compared to the first invasions now seems that tyranid biofleet are coming from everywhere...

in the codex we have ouroboris and tiamet described as Bg but not as rule... i may suppose in future campaign already written that will introduce them properly (with their own set of rules, stratagem and artifacts)

we will see

interesting

[nurglitch]

It's a new lighthouse like the one destroyed at Pharos.

[nicos]

My guess is that Tiamet and Kronos work together like the white bloodcells of the universe and want to close the rift, by creating beacons of the warpshadow.

While Kronos is battling the Demons wherever it can find them, absorbing biomass Leviathan left for it on its way (Btw. the first real hint that Hive Fleets work together) Tiamet creates Nullzones where no demon can exist.

Like the Codex said:
Scores of planets conquered by Chaos-worshipping cultists and warp-spawned abominations have fallen in Kronos' path, and Kronos has obliterated them all, like a maggot eating the corruption from an infected wound.

[NidNoms]

Feb 1, 2018 15:19:03 GMT nicos said:

My guess is that Tiamet and Kronos work together like the white bloodcells of the universe and want to close the rift, by creating beacons of the warpshadow.

While Kronos is battling the Demons wherever it can find them, absorbing biomass Leviathan left for it on its way (Btw. the first real hint that Hive Fleets work together) Tiamet creates Nullzones where no demon can exist.

Like the Codex said:
Scores of planets conquered by Chaos-worshipping cultists and warp-spawned abominations have fallen in Kronos' path, and Kronos has obliterated them all, like a maggot eating the corruption from an infected wound.

Yeah, deamons and Tyranids hate each other worse then Eldar and there dark cousins, and thats one reason i like Kronos, the fact they are seeking out deamons and psychic rich planets. And your theory does hold in them purging the deamon threat.

[Indominus]

Jan 28, 2018 20:58:07 GMT LordPathos said:

Isnt tiamat also kinda like kronos that they dont like daemons? Maybe they are making their own version of the pylons that kept Chaos out.

Nids. Healing the galaxy it wants to eat.

Personally, i reckon its like a sort of psychic bomb. In the fluff, when the Eldar found it, the psychic waves from it pretty much killed their psykers, and the Shadow in the Warp was incredibly strong. It would make sense, because if the Tyranids were able to disable every psyker within a few million mile radius, as well as heal the Cicatrix Malidectum somewhat to slow down Daemons, then the odds would swing in their favour by a considerable margin. Bear in mind that Tyranids cant eat Daemons, so would want to get rid of them, and killing a load of psykers makes it even better. So, it seems to me like its a psychic Exterminatus almost, designed to stop Daemons from disrupting stuff in that area and kill off hundreds of Psykers at the same time. Makes sense, but lets hope Kryptman doesnt miraculously destroy it.

[joysan76]

i don't think is something built to stop daemons. The tiamet is reported in the 35/36k the demons had a diffusion so large only recently, before their activities was more limited to certain zone or limited to the cultists activities, this don't seems to justify the Tiamet structure that surely need great energies and resources to work. that's more a huge pharos to guide the biofleet spread in the universe trough the milk way.

the psykik bomb effect is more something collateral, like a big fire to signal your position, but if you approach to much to it you risk to burn, so using psychic energy waves to signal the galaxy position, all psyker that approach too much while the structure is giving its psyke pulse, risk to feel their brain consumed by the overhelming energy produced to reach with this signal the deeper corners of the universe

[NidNoms]

Feb 23, 2018 15:12:56 GMT Indominus said:

Jan 28, 2018 20:58:07 GMT LordPathos said:

Isnt tiamat also kinda like kronos that they dont like daemons? Maybe they are making their own version of the pylons that kept Chaos out.

Nids. Healing the galaxy it wants to eat.

Personally, i reckon its like a sort of psychic bomb. In the fluff, when the Eldar found it, the psychic waves from it pretty much killed their psykers, and the Shadow in the Warp was incredibly strong. It would make sense, because if the Tyranids were able to disable every psyker within a few million mile radius, as well as heal the Cicatrix Malidectum somewhat to slow down Daemons, then the odds would swing in their favour by a considerable margin. Bear in mind that Tyranids cant eat Daemons, so would want to get rid of them, and killing a load of psykers makes it even better. So, it seems to me like its a psychic Exterminatus almost, designed to stop Daemons from disrupting stuff in that area and kill off hundreds of Psykers at the same time. Makes sense, but lets hope Kryptman doesnt miraculously destroy it.

makes sense that they would kill psykers so stop deamons from apearing, and yes i hope we have seen the last of Kryptman, if it weren't for him, Macragge would be destroyed and we could all kiss the 13th legion goodbye and good riddance. 

[Indominus]

Yep, the one thing that annoys me on the fluff is the near-death scenarios, but suddenly an important character turns up and "miraculously" averts disaster. Prince Yriel, Kryptman, Marneus Calgar, and now Guilliman. Im assuming in later fluff developments, maybe there will be some sort of war in the Tiamet system to try and destroy the nids, but i pray to the Hive Mind that Kryptman doesnt send in a Primaris Chapter with Plot Armour.....

[Hive Bahamut]

Feb 24, 2018 21:35:14 GMT Indominus said:

Yep, the one thing that annoys me on the fluff is the near-death scenarios, but suddenly an important character turns up and "miraculously" averts disaster. Prince Yriel, Kryptman, Marneus Calgar, and now Guilliman. Im assuming in later fluff developments, maybe there will be some sort of war in the Tiamet system to try and destroy the nids, but i pray to the Hive Mind that Kryptman doesnt send in a Primaris Chapter with Plot Armour.....

I used to have an issue with this until we got our Hive Adaptations. If it means we have no characters "locked" into fleets and are the only faction to do so because they get massacred in the narrative.. "Forge that narrative!!"