Eldar FAQ - Strength from Death is dead?

[Jabberwocky]

So Ynnari got nerfed pretty hard.

Only 1 soulburst of any action, per turn.

No soulburst from their own units dieing.

This makes them a hell of a lot easier to face and a hell of a lot less scary.

I expect 90% of Eldar will be craftworld now.

[endgame422]

Wow. That's a brutal nerf. I had heard eldar players complain about how they HAD to go ynnari to be competitive but i doubt this is not the solution they wanted.

[gigasnail]

maybe before the CW codex was released, they had a legit beef.

not really the case anymore.

[Hive Bahamut]

Sisters Acts of Faith: Up to 3x the same action per turn doing absolutely nothing.

Ynnari Soulburst: limit of 1 of each action ONLY if you kill an enemy unit.

Which of these is Imperial? I can't tell just by looking at the rules.

[LordPathos]

Nov 17, 2017 3:01:31 GMT Hive Bahamut said:

Sisters Acts of Faith: Up to 3x the same action per turn doing absolutely nothing.

Ynnari Soulburst: limit of 1 of each action ONLY if you kill an enemy unit.

Which of these is Imperial? I can't tell just by looking at the rules.

Where is the change to Acts of Faith?

[Hive Bahamut]

There is no change. 1 time free, +1 Celestine +1 Imagifier on 4+

Heavy Bolters/Melta shooting 2-3 times is not very fun.

[Hive Tyrant Qiln]

So its something they get by spending points, instead of it being based on the core army rules.

[mattblowers]

Nov 17, 2017 0:51:23 GMT gigasnail said:

maybe before the CW codex was released, they had a legit beef.

not really the case anymore.

It effects Harlequins and Dark Eldar too who don't have a codex.

Oh and our kraken genestealers can reliably run down Eldar jetbikes. I think their complaints are valid. No one is shedding any tears because of the last 2 editions of Eldar abuse. The faithful Eldar players deserve a bit of empathy.

[gigasnail]

I'm not shedding any tears because these guys don't have a codex yet, and will get their (please do not swear) updated then.

They're also getting some strats and traits on CA.

The sky is not failling, CW eldar is a great book, they can deal w/ using that until then. Orks and crons and the rest don't even have that option.

[nidzy]

Harlequins are also a strong index entry, Dark Eldar (though maligned in some corners of the internet) are a meta breaking list if well written. 15+ dark lances and 70+ splinter shots aren't a joke. They can kite most armies in the game. I think this was a needed book for an index entry that was broken. It will come back around.

[kazetanade]

Nov 17, 2017 3:01:31 GMT Hive Bahamut said:

Sisters Acts of Faith: Up to 3x the same action per turn doing absolutely nothing.

Ynnari Soulburst: limit of 1 of each action ONLY if you kill an enemy unit.

Which of these is Imperial? I can't tell just by looking at the rules.

Could you tell pre-nerf? Looked the same to me.

[Hive Bahamut]

Which is exactly why I proceeded to dump my Aeldari. There's no way they were keeping a rule as powerful/more so than an Imperial faction. That's just silly. So instead of following the GSC curse mentality I knew better.

Shang Tsun Eldar, your life was short lived, but still outlived GSC and SFD is arguably just as bad now.

[autoxidation]

Nov 20, 2017 21:57:33 GMT Hive Bahamut said:

Which is exactly why I proceeded to dump my Aeldari. There's no way they were keeping a rule as powerful/more so than an Imperial faction. That's just silly. So instead of following the GSC curse mentality I knew better.

Shang Tsun Eldar, your life was short lived, but still outlived GSC and SFD is arguably just as bad now.

Yeah that's why Sisters were placing so high in tournaments and Ynnari was never seen. Clear Imperium favoritism right there.

[Threeshades]

Wait, so you can still soulburst multiple times, you just cannot use the same type of soulburst more than once. There's still a potential of 5 bursts per turn. The ability still sounds powerful especially since it goes onto units that were written and costed to have much less potent abilities.

[No One]

Threeshades said:

Wait, so you can still soulburst multiple times, you just cannot use the same type of soulburst more than once. There's still a potential of 5 bursts per turn. The ability still sounds powerful especially since it goes onto units that were written and costed to have much less potent abilities.

Eh: you still need to hit trigger conditions (i.e. kill something within 7"), and have something useful to do with it. You also lose Craftworld traits, relics, and WL (since Ynnari HQ has to be WL), as well as stratagems unless you take another det for that (and possibly even then, but I doubt it).

It's by no means bad: but it's no longer something to build your army around, since you'll only have 1 or 2 units with something useful they want to soulburst with usually (i.e. shoot again or charge/fight and move). The rest miss out on Craftworld fun stuff (or even PfP and Rising Crescendo: the second especially is pretty good) for...nothing really.