Harlequins First Try

[dakkafex]

I don't actually own any of this models, but I wanted to start a new army and heard that Harlequins are pretty strong in 8th, so, that's what I came up with:

++ Battalion Detachment +3CP (Aeldari - Harlequins) [107 PL, 2000pts] ++

+ HQ +

Shadowseer [7 PL, 144pts]: Neuro Disruptor

Troupe Master [4 PL, 77pts]: Fusion Pistol, Harlequin's Caress

+ Troops +

Troupe [7 PL, 109pts]
. Player: Fusion Pistol, Harlequin's Embrace
. Player: Harlequin's Embrace, Shuriken Pistol
. Player: Harlequin's Embrace, Shuriken Pistol
. Player: Harlequin's Embrace, Shuriken Pistol
. Player: Harlequin's Blade, Shuriken Pistol

Troupe [7 PL, 100pts]
. Player: Harlequin's Embrace, Shuriken Pistol
. Player: Harlequin's Embrace, Shuriken Pistol
. Player: Harlequin's Embrace, Shuriken Pistol
. Player: Harlequin's Embrace, Shuriken Pistol
. Player: Harlequin's Blade, Shuriken Pistol

Troupe [7 PL, 100pts]
. Player: Harlequin's Embrace, Shuriken Pistol
. Player: Harlequin's Embrace, Shuriken Pistol
. Player: Harlequin's Embrace, Shuriken Pistol
. Player: Harlequin's Embrace, Shuriken Pistol
. Player: Harlequin's Blade, Shuriken Pistol

Troupe [7 PL, 100pts]
. Player: Harlequin's Embrace, Shuriken Pistol
. Player: Harlequin's Embrace, Shuriken Pistol
. Player: Harlequin's Embrace, Shuriken Pistol
. Player: Harlequin's Embrace, Shuriken Pistol
. Player: Harlequin's Blade, Shuriken Pistol

Troupe [7 PL, 95pts]
. Player: Harlequin's Embrace, Shuriken Pistol
. Player: Harlequin's Embrace, Shuriken Pistol
. Player: Harlequin's Embrace, Shuriken Pistol
. Player: Harlequin's Blade, Shuriken Pistol
. Player: Harlequin's Blade, Shuriken Pistol

+ Fast Attack +

Skyweavers [15 PL, 336pts]
. Skyweaver: Shuriken Cannon, Zephyrglaive
. Skyweaver: Shuriken Cannon, Zephyrglaive
. Skyweaver: Shuriken Cannon, Zephyrglaive
. Skyweaver: Shuriken Cannon, Zephyrglaive
. Skyweaver: Shuriken Cannon, Zephyrglaive
. Skyweaver: Shuriken Cannon, Zephyrglaive

Skyweavers [15 PL, 336pts]
. Skyweaver: Shuriken Cannon, Zephyrglaive
. Skyweaver: Shuriken Cannon, Zephyrglaive
. Skyweaver: Shuriken Cannon, Zephyrglaive
. Skyweaver: Shuriken Cannon, Zephyrglaive
. Skyweaver: Shuriken Cannon, Zephyrglaive
. Skyweaver: Shuriken Cannon, Zephyrglaive

+ Heavy Support +

Voidweaver [6 PL, 108pts]
. Voidweaver: Prismatic Cannon, 2x Shuriken Cannon

+ Dedicated Transport +

Starweaver [5 PL, 99pts]: 2x Shuriken Cannon

Starweaver [5 PL, 99pts]: 2x Shuriken Cannon

Starweaver [5 PL, 99pts]: 2x Shuriken Cannon

Starweaver [5 PL, 99pts]: 2x Shuriken Cannon

Starweaver [5 PL, 99pts]: 2x Shuriken Cannon

++ Total: [107 PL, 2000pts] ++

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Any thoughts or comments are very welcome! 😜

[Jabberwocky]

I'd get yourself a farseer in there. Casting Doom can make such a massive impact on your damage output, especially in melee.

I'd maybe drop 1 unit of troops to fill out the characters. Maybe even pick up a farseer and 2 warlocks just to add a bit of support T1, or all game if you put them on bikes so they can keep up.

[dakkafex]

Yeah, that could be an idea, but I'm not really sold on it... I'll have a think and try to come up with a new list.

Thanks for the suggestion!

[tomb]

Quinns are fantastic in 8th, particualy if using strength from death (ynarri).

They have been the core of almost all my 8th edition lists. I'd strongly recommend using 

Battalion 3CP
Yvrainne
2x Troop master - Fusion , embrace

1x troop ( Yvrainne joins in starweaver)
5x fusion, embrace

2x troop ( troop masters)
2x fusion, embrace
3x shurrican, embrace

3x starweaver

- from here add 

Solitaire - fun character
wave serpents with wraith d cannons - will delete most things before/after soul bursting 
dark reapers - can hang with yvraine for double tap
kabilites or Wyches in venoms - for very cheap 3CP  battalions
add fusion guns to kabilites
hemlock for potential -2 to hit bubble to vehicles
Skyweavers 4+ - fast support soulburst potential

Will smash most armies as long as you play fast assault and keep things tight for multiple soul bursts, should be looking for 4-5+ soul bursts turn two.

Is relatively tough 4++ -1 (-2 with hemlock) to hit, can tie up shooty units in assault. 

Murders vehicles and multi wound units with fusion.

Can redeploy for objectives very fast.

however,

Does not like mortal wound spam, mass low ap shooting and hordes particualy tzeentch or anything with ++.

Ynnari may not get an update for a long while...

[dakkafex]

Sept 24, 2017 21:32:13 GMT tomb said:

Quinns are fantastic in 8th, particualy if using strength from death (ynarri).

They have been the core of almost all my 8th edition lists. I'd strongly recommend using 

Battalion 3CP
Yvrainne
2x Troop master - Fusion , embrace

1x troop ( Yvrainne joins in starweaver)
5x fusion, embrace

2x troop ( troop masters)
2x fusion, embrace
3x shurrican, embrace

3x starweaver

- from here add 

Solitaire - fun character
wave serpents with wraith d cannons - will delete most things before/after soul bursting 
dark reapers - can hang with yvraine for double tap
kabilites or Wyches in venoms - for very cheap 3CP  battalions
add fusion guns to kabilites
hemlock for potential -2 to hit bubble to vehicles
Skyweavers 4+ - fast support soulburst potential

Will smash most armies as long as you play fast assault and keep things tight for multiple soul bursts, should be looking for 4-5+ soul bursts turn two.

Is relatively tough 4++ -1 (-2 with hemlock) to hit, can tie up shooty units in assault. 

Murders vehicles and multi wound units with fusion.

Can redeploy for objectives very fast.

however,

Does not like mortal wound spam, mass low ap shooting and hordes particualy tzeentch or anything with ++.

Ynnari may not get an update for a long while...

Your suggestions are all super-good, but my plan was to start an all-harlequin army and go Ynnari only in the long term...

Seeing that you are experienced, though: are Void weavers worth getting? What about Skyweavers? What's the best loadout for them?

P.S. How does Hemlock give you a -1 to hit bubble? I couldn't find the rule looking on BattleScribe

[Jabberwocky]

The Warlock pilot inside is casting Conceal. The caster (the flyer) and all asuryani infantry within 3" get -1 to hit against them. This stacks with the hemlocks own hard to hit, making it -2 against the hemlock as well.

Edit: it's just occurred to me harlequins aren't asuryani now, so can't benefit from a lot of the craftworld eldar psychic powers. Only really Doom and the other 'harmful' powers.

[dakkafex]

Oct 2, 2017 7:17:37 GMT Jabberwocky said:

The Warlock pilot inside is casting Conceal. The caster (the flyer) and all asuryani infantry within 3" get -1 to hit against them. This stacks with the hemlocks own hard to hit, making it -2 against the hemlock as well.

Edit: it's just occurred to me harlequins aren't asuryani now, so can't benefit from a lot of the craftworld eldar psychic powers. Only really Doom and the other 'harmful' powers.

Ok, gotcha. With it working only on Asuryani is kind of limited but would have been cool otherwise.
This trick with this as is to deploy all the vehicles and jetbikes around the Shadowseer, so that the opponent has to shoot with a -1 both to hit and to wound, which is still pretty neat.