Any Pathfinder players?

[LordPathos]

Hey guys,

I started playing Pathfinder not too long ago with my GF, my warhammer buddy, his GF, and a friend of my friend. I just wanted to know if there is anyone I can talk builds with. I have friends from school that play but jobs and other real life things keep us from communicating as much as I'd like. I just want to go over some concept, maybe feat ideas, etc.

Aaaaand go!

[barbedsparky]

Pathfinder?

Please excuse my ignorance.

[LordPathos]

Dungeons and Dragons, but an edition of the game that became it's own thing.

[robomummy]

Mar 22, 2017 13:46:35 GMT barbedsparky said:

Pathfinder?

Please excuse my ignorance.

A better version of D&D 3.5.

I am currently in year 8 of my friend's campaign although i've been a part of a ton since I started playing about 10 years ago (Currently part of 2 right now). what kinds of builds are you looking at?

[LordPathos]

I had 2 builds in mind:

First is a Two-Handed Fighter aiming for AoE intimidate. I tried looking up builds online but all I find are Rogue/whatever Thug builds focusing on Enforcer. While Enforcer is fantastic, I don't want to deal non-lethal damage. It means I'm not killing someone. My biggest problem is I was really hoping for just a way to do a Dazzling Display but not as a full round action. I know there are some feats that if you kill something you get a free DD and maybe that would work. Maybe my character will kill things enough that would work, too early to tell. But if that is the route I take, I'm unsure where to go for feats after that. I want to spread the fear conditions as best I can so once I get Cornugon Smash at lvl 6 I was thinking Cleave? It says when I attack with Power Attack and cleave counts towards that. So would I get multiple Cornugon Smashes if I have enemies adjacent to each other? I also like the idea of Disheartening Display, but unless I get a free DD somewhere, that would mean I need 2 turns for 2 separate DDs and that isn't how I want to play my character at all. Beyond that, I plan on getting Intimidating Presence and Hurtful too. I also thought that if I do have to go with the feats that require me to kill something for the free DD, then multi-class into Barbarian, specifically the Invulnerable Rager. Stripping down to medium armor for the extra movement and the rage fits my characters theme. (havent dived into rage powers yet I haven't decided my feats yet and need the Fighter levels for them) The DR at 2nd level is nice too.

The second is another Fighter but I'm going for a very different build with a different group of players. It's going to be a sibling Vishkanya with my GF's character. She is going to be a Sorceress with the Draconic bloodline so I am going with the Dragonheir Scion archetype that gives me a bloodline, which would be Draconic to match the sibling's. My plan for this character is pretty much full DEX and go for Slashing Grace with a Falcata. Then just aim for Crit feats. Paired with Killer and/or Bloodthirsty traits and the Arcane Strike I get from the archetype, adding little bits of extra damage sounds pretty interesting. Also, since I need a Weapon Finesse feat for Slashing Grace I was thinking of dipping into Swashbuckler for the Swashbuckler Finesse at lvl 1. But either doing that or just sticking with Fighter (for WF at 2nd lvl), I would have to wait til 3rd level to get this little build working. Unless I decide to ditch the Falcata. Then I don't need Exotic Weapon Proficiency. I just liked it cuz its the highest damaging one-handed slashing with a x3 crit.

But there you go, not the most complicated builds in the world I would think. What do you think, any ideas?

[robomummy]

What is your starting level? Is this a book campaign or a scratch built campaign? Factors like these will effect the viability of your first build (though be careful to avoid metagaming when making your character).

As for a fighter like that i would say maybe don't rely too heavily on intimidating moves as if you are playing at higher level most things you fight will be immune to intimidation or have a high enough save to not need to worry about it. Fighter is probably your best bet as it is very flexible or I'd recommend brawler because of his ability to switch between combat feats but that is more focused on unarmed or improvised weapon attacks. Focus on the STR DEX and CON for him, remember it's ok to have a low WIS/INT (you wont need to be solving puzzles anytime soon as a fighter). If you insist on trying for intimidate I would focus more on CHA than CON or DEX as for some stupid reason it works off of CHA. Take a human race for the extra feat and start with Dodge and Improved initiative. Then build up to cleave and greater cleave. As for weapons I would go with a greatsword (2d6) over an axe (1d12) for it's increased minimum damage. Only once you have this base I would start building up the intimidation feats. Remember you can always try to intimidate people as a free action, particularly if you do something impressive and the DM is generous. As for multiclassing to Barb I would hold off until you reach level 3-5 to maximise the amount of bonuses from being a fighter, rage is nice but if you build up your base attacks before you get this by building up fighter then that will allow you to do way more damage.

As for the second class I normally don't advise multiclassing but if you want a dex based fighter I definitely recommend swashbuckler levels for that finesse and the parry/riposte ability. particularly if you want to be lightly armored that ability is a lifesaver. Focus on crit feats and Strength first and you'll be fine. Just remember crits don't matter too much if your damage is negligible.

[cypheon]

If its based on 3.5, lets be honest with the guy... the answer to every combat situation you will ever be in... is Monk.

You can make up rules for them mid combat and when everyone asks "can monks do that?", the gm just says "most likely... bruce lee did it in a movie, i think"

[barbedsparky]

Mar 22, 2017 19:39:47 GMT robomummy said:

Mar 22, 2017 13:46:35 GMT barbedsparky said:

Pathfinder?

Please excuse my ignorance.

A better version of D&D 3.5.

I

Wowsers, I haven't played since 2nd Ed however many years ago....

Good stuff.

[robomummy]

Mar 23, 2017 4:17:19 GMT cypheon said:

If its based on 3.5, lets be honest with the guy... the answer to every combat situation you will ever be in... is Monk.

You can make up rules for them mid combat and when everyone asks "can monks do that?", the gm just says "most likely... bruce lee did it in a movie, i think"

It's based on 3.5 but it's been improved a lot. Monks are good but not nearly as strong as they used to be.

[LordPathos]

Hey Robo,
The 2-handed fighter is now 2nd level and we're only doing little homebrew modules that I create to get used to the game. I think after the current one we're doing we will be close to 3rd level and that is probably when we are going to start Rise of the Runelords. We found a PDF of the whole campaign. The feats I have so fair are Weapons Focus, Power Attack, and Dazzling Display. For right now I'm at least aiming for Shatter Defenses, Cornugon Smash, and Hurtful. Beyond that I'm not sure. I'm thinking Vital Strike and maybe Cleave. Beyond that I think once I hit 7th or 8th level is when I will dip into Barbarian, I haven't decided yet.

As for the Dex fighter I'm super curious to see how Slashing Grace turns out where your Dex mod is used for damage instead of your Str mod.