Iron Hands 1850

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I am trying to build a nice, all-around Space Marine list, using the Iron Hands.
In case you don't know, the Iron Hands have FNP (6+), It Will Not Die on all their vehicles and +1 to Blessing of the Omnissiah rolls.

The named people are just names, no stat changes, like Second Company Captain Alexander is just a regular captain. 

Battle Demi-Company
HQ
— Second Company Captain Alexander +180
+Relic blade +artificer armor +storm bolter +Gorgon’s Chain
—Librarian Astoroth +110
+Level 2 +storm bolter +The Mindforge Stave
—2 Techmarines +100 (200)
+2 Servitors +Servo-harness
Troops
—Tactical Squad +225
+5 models +Missile Launcher (flakk) +meltagun +Rhino +storm bolter +extra armor
—Scout Squad +145
+Camo cloaks +missile launcher +Land Speeder Storm +Assault cannon
Elites
—Command Squad +170
+Apothecary +5 Storm shields +Company Standard
—Ancient Dreadnought Captain Martin +150 (Venerable Dreadnought)
+twin-linked autocannon +Heavy flamer +extra armor
—Venerable Dreadnought +150
+twin-linked autocannon +Heavy flamer +extra armor
Fast Attack
—Bike Squad +63
Heavy Support
—Centurion Devastator Squad +205
+Missile Launchers +omniscope
—Stormraven Supernova +250

The Captain, Librarian and Command Squad will be inside the Supernova to go grab a tough objective (4+ FNP and 3++ Invul > 
Rhino: Tactical Squad (Deploy) (Get mid-field objective)
Land Speeder Storm: Scout Squad (Infiltrate) (Grab Objective/Sniping spot)
1 Techmarine accompanies the other Dreadnought. (Grab back field objective)
1 Techmarine attends to Rhino (and Land Speeder)
Centurion Devastator Squad provides cover fire. (Mid-field objective)
Bike Squad (Warlord hunting)



Tell me where its awesome or horrible. Thanks!

[No One]

I don't play SM at all, so not going to be too much help, but thoughts (aside: the lay out's really hard to read):

I don't really see much point in flakk - it's not really scary at only 1 shot S7 AP4.

—Scout Squad +145
+Camo cloaks +missile launcher +Land Speeder Storm +Assault cannon

Why camo with missile launcher, without sniper and in a land speeder?

—Ancient Dreadnought Captain Martin +150 (Venerable Dreadnought)
+twin-linked autocannon +Heavy flamer +extra armor

This seems an odd load out - a heavy flamer is not a backfield gun at all, and an auto cannon is not a close ranged stormraven drop gun (though having a look, it appears that there's not much else in the way of options...).

—Command Squad +170
+Apothecary +5 Storm shields +Company Standard

You've equipped them for defence - which is fine, but they don't have any offense apart from the ICs. And while nice, I doubt they'd be sufficient. Add on that they're T4 with infantry movement, and even a 3++/4+++ won't prevent wounds from piling through (though the Gorgon's Chain+Artificer would help a lot). Also not sure about the company standard - there's not a whole lot that'll be taking morale checks, and you've got ATSKNF anyway.

—Centurion Devastator Squad +205
+Missile Launchers +omniscope

Why ML over grav?

1 Techmarine accompanies the other Dreadnought. (Grab back field objective)
1 Techmarine attends to Rhino (and Land Speeder)

I think this has a couple of issues: keeping the techmarines alive (one could jump in the rhino, but the one with the dread doesn't seem to have anywhere to go), losing the vehicle entirely, as well as just cost to keep them alive (you could almost get another dread for the price of the techmarine).

Bike Squad (Warlord hunting)

There's very few HQs that're going to be bothered by 3 marines on bikes.

I'm not 100% sure on the requirements, but have you thought about taking a Fist of Medusa Strike Force instead?

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I've made a new list, primarily drop pod focused. The Captain will go with the Command Squad and one Librarian will be with each Tactical and Devastator Squad. This is to (along with psychic buffs) to get +1 to FNP rolls, giving practically everyone regular Feel No Pain. The Land Speeder will just derp around with the Centurions, who will foot slog. The Dreadnought will be down first, along side the Captain and Command Squad Co. The Tactical Squads will quickly follow (2 of them) and range out to hold objectives. 


FIST OF MEDUSA STRIKE FORCE 1850
——Battle-demi Company—— +1255
—Captain +200
+Relic blade +artificer armor +grav-pistol +Gorgon’s Chain +melta bombs
—Command Squad +275
+Apothecary +2 grav-guns +2 grav-guns +5 storm shields +DPP
—3 Tactical Squads +435
+Grav-gun +DPP
—Land Speeder +65
+Assault Cannon
—Centurion Devastator Squad +280
+Missile launcher +grav-cannon +omni-scope

——Librarius Conclave—— +380
—4 Librarians +380 (95 each)
+Level 2 +storm bolter

——Honored Ancients—— +215
—Venerable Dreadnought +215
+Assault cannon +heavy flamer +extra armor +DPP


DPP (Drop Pod Preset) +60
+locator beacon +deathwind launcher

[buzz]

first off, you want to run eithe 2 demi companies for the free transports or you want to run a stormlance with Iron Hands.
Always put IC IC's on bikes
you are putting in way to many wasted upgrades. build a list with the fewest upgrades you need to do exactly what you need to do, then put in more bodies.