How big Genestealer Patriarch can get?

[localcultist]

Hello!

I... My friend wonder how big can Patriarch get. Can it grow as big as Imperial Knight Gallant?

I'm thinking about making 7" high Genestealer for my IG Genstealer Cult... I mean my friend needs that info for school project.

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probably shouldn't try to be funny git.

My question is: can Genestealers grow up to size of Imperial Knight?

I strongly think about making huge Patriarch leading my army, counting as CC Knight (rending claws and scything talons counting as gauntlet and chainsaw, with biomeltagun as tongue. Probably could use instead Hierophant rules or something, but people in my area don't like FW so Knight is only fitting but also legal thing I can add to IG, other than actual Nid detachment... which I probably won't do, since I don't even have primary detachment)

[mattblowers]

Look at the size of Space Marine. They are supposed to 8 feet tall. I'd say that using a size comparison the 'werewolf' broodlord should be about 9 feet tall and the new broodlords and Magus about 12-15? Hard to tell exactly as they are all hunched over.

[Xenothios]

Biggest broodlords I've seen are the spawn of cryptus and the patriarch, but I do love the idea of converting up a nid-shaped knight titan. Might even mock up a small heirophant for it!

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I feel like anything knight sized starts to delve into Dimacheron territory. But I'm not sure anyone can give you a formal answer.

Afterall the red-terror has events described as being the size of a small trygon and possibly even having just been a trygon mistaken for something else.

Do it up as you see fit! Anything that big though I start to wonder how you'd equalize rules. Visually could be a superb project but without fan-made rules that giant thing hiding in a squad of stealers(or anything else) would strike me as awkward.

[Xenothios]

Apr 24, 2016 1:46:00 GMT @nidsinrva said:

I feel like anything knight sized starts to delve into Dimacheron territory. But I'm not sure anyone can give you a formal answer.

Afterall the red-terror has events described as being the size of a small trygon and possibly even having just been a trygon mistaken for something else.

Do it up as you see fit! Anything that big though I start to wonder how you'd equalize rules. Visually could be a superb project but without fan-made rules that giant thing hiding in a squad of stealers(or anything else) would strike me as awkward.

come to think of it, running as an IK would limit your bubble wrapping potential, being CTA with them and all.

[localcultist]

Apr 23, 2016 20:16:47 GMT Xenothios said:

Biggest broodlords I've seen are the spawn of cryptus and the patriarch, but I do love the idea of converting up a nid-shaped knight titan. Might even mock up a small heirophant for it!

I considered something like that, even made handy scale guide (it's actually Wraithknight sized)


I have few problems with Hierophant tho, even if it would be scratchbuild (there is excellent guide for making one with Tervigon kits):

Four legs doesn't scream "Genestealer" enough.
IK are usually bipedal, don't want to confuse anybody.
Fitting 4 legs on oval base may be tricky
I want it to be symmetrical (ie. IK Gauntlet/Rending Claw and Chainsword/Scything Talon on each side of the body), 4 arms let me do that.
May later swap those arms for shooty weapons (most likely 2 Avenger cannons + heavy flamers from latest Renegade Knight detachment. Because Rending dakka.)

Apr 24, 2016 1:46:00 GMT @nidsinrva said:

I feel like anything knight sized starts to delve into Dimacheron territory. But I'm not sure anyone can give you a formal answer.

Afterall the red-terror has events described as being the size of a small trygon and possibly even having just been a trygon mistaken for something else.

Do it up as you see fit! Anything that big though I start to wonder how you'd equalize rules. Visually could be a superb project but without fan-made rules that giant thing hiding in a squad of stealers(or anything else) would strike me as awkward.

I plan to run it as regular Knight Gallant, with rest of the cult sitting back and dakka everything with Autocannons and Lasrifles (and then Magus laughs maniacally when Big Daddy explodes in middle of enemy army). So no Genestealers attached (tho If I get a lot of 1/2 gen hybrids, I may use them as IG conscripts)

[localcultist]

I made a quick 1:2 mockup model from oil clay, just to get proportions right (that include oval base).



Tried to make cross between actual Knight (overall bipedal structure with broad shoulder "pads"), Alien (eyeless head, "tubes"), Hell Knight from Doom 3 (muscular legs, stealthy approach is out of question I think) and Genestealer.
Also decided on armament - Sword/Gauntlet CC Weapons, Meltagun (a chance for dismounting unit before assaulting? YES. I think about adding it on tail, inside mouth or on forehead) and 3 Krak carapace launcher (it's basically better and cheaper Krak-only Missile IG HWS on far more survivable platform). With ability to swap for dual Avenger Cannons + HFlamers (because rending and templates, yay)

I may start up roughing torso tomorrow...

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Also it looks like I've found answer to my question... sort of (I think this is supposed to be Broodlord... and he's twice the size of normal Stealer. Double that and You almost have Imperial Knight.)

[danb]

Looks like a fun project!

Have you seen [linky-->]this one?[<--linky] It's a multi-part series on Youtube about a kitbashed Tyranid Knight.

[Dragonet]

I'm in the process of converting a metal Hive Tyrant to be my Patriarch, to play with Hive Tyrant rules as the stats progress nicely and Maw Claws Of Thyrax represents that alien assimilate knowledge ability that I really like. Project's on hold while I wait to chav my mate's Dremel.