Vs Space Marines v7.0

[yoritomo]

7th edition is here. Now that is has been out for a while it is time for us to combine our knowledge and share what we have learned.

This thread is for everything we know about Space Marines. If you know something about the strategies that Space Marine players use, or units to watch out for, or how the meta is developing with Space Marines, or popular ally choices, or chapter traits you see them take, or units you’ve had success with, or anything else that will help fellow nid players do well against Space Marines then we’d love for you to share it here.

This is for serious discussion about Space Marine armies only. As such, flaming will not be tolerated, if you’re going to debate then use facts and don’t break down into make calling or other such nonsense. Also, this isn’t the place for army list reviews; please take those to the appropriate board. And as always, the moderators reserve the right to delete any off topic replies or inappropriate responses.

[bublinka]

Hello

I have a really rough time againts sm

thunderfire cannons + ceturions are insane againts both swarms and monstrous creature,

in first rank is tanking chapter master 2+/3++ and feel no pain on bike with command squad full p. weapons, meltas, flamers, s.shields

podguard with meltas and flamer

imperial fists or salamanders with this list ... i usually hide in cover but orbital bombardment, vindicatr and thunderfire cannon + sternguard kills everything

[yowster12]

Feb 18, 2015 17:30:44 GMT bublinka said:

Hello

I have a really rough time againts sm

thunderfire cannons + ceturions are insane againts both swarms and monstrous creature,

in first rank is tanking chapter master 2+/3++ and feel no pain on bike with command squad full p. weapons, meltas, flamers, s.shields

podguard with meltas and flamer

imperial fists or salamanders with this list ... i usually hide in cover but orbital bombardment, vindicatr and thunderfire cannon + sternguard kills everything

How many flyers do you run? I usually run 2 Flyrants Malan A healthy amount of Gargoyles. Mucolids for troops. Most MC are in Pods and for a ThunderFire Cannon Zoans and Neuro have become a thing for me. Or 2 Dimas to make them really think Hard xD

[bublinka]

I usually play 2 flyrants and 20 gargoyles, i dont think drop pod all mc is a good idea, tyrannocite is quite expensive if you take dakafex for 150 + tyrannocite 75/100

zoans are good but problem in this is t.f.cannon have 60´range and barrage

and i think dima is unique

[Kark]

Centurion stars are pretty mean. They usually contain coteaz (so entire unit can shoot at Your reserves within 12'' from coteaz. Not good for scattering mawlocs), tigirius (he helps with rolling some nasty powers like invisibility, 4+inv, levitation - extra 12'' movement, perect timing and so on). Centurion star can include Cypher (hit and run, shrouded, scout move) or be white scars (so have hit and run for chapter tactics). Draigo is also an option with gate of infinity. Centurions have 30 twinlinked (for prescience) shots that wound tyrants on 3+ with rerolls to wound (grav amps) AP2 and -1 to cover saves for auspex. they can also split fire.

I can't say what is best against centurion star with this configuration.

Thunderfire cannons can be dealt with spirit leech. So can bike stars. Mawlocs can help against space marines. Hive Crones with Hive Tyrants are my standard choice.

[matgat]

Anyone give direction on building an army to face marines currently have a flyrant who i give the heavy venom cannon, a tyranid prime w/ death spitter and bone swords, 3 warriors i equip with the venom canon and bswords 1 with lash whip bswords and death spitter and 1 with bswords and sything tallons ( have found boneswords mess up marines in cc) 20 termagaunts 12 hormys a tygron and a tyrannofex with rapture canon, looking at a couple carnifexs and a exocrine but any surgestions would be great to deal with these overpowered power armor wearing pussys

[yowster12]

Forcing many saves is as good as ignoring their armor these days. Give your Flyrants Twin linked Devourers with Brainleach worms. Get another flyrant with the same. Add Carnifex put that same gun on him. Put him in a drop pod.or in a squad of 2 with a Venomthrope/Malanthrope on the Table. Depending on what he brings hordes can be effective or no more than a nuisance. If you want the Exocrine put him in a Living Artillery Node formation. This helps with Marines and Scouts because of the Biovores,

[justinzilla]

I recently got smashed by centurions and a knight in a 1000 point game. Two flyrants are not by any means immune I those grav amped cannons. Super brütal. In the future I'm hoping to drop an exocrine by them for that ap 2, use the hive crones vector strike to hopefully instant kill one, or hide some hive guard to hit with s8 also.. (I think cents are still t4?) anyway, good luck in your future marine murdering adventures

[WestRider]

Cents are T5. You pretty much need to get into CC with them. Even that doesn't help if they've got Draigo around to Gate them out, or White Scars Chapter Tactics for Hit & Run.

[Kark]

I don't know about Exocrines. Centurion stars usually tend to be invisible, so You can't hit them with blasts. Drop centurions will kill exocrine before it could fire. Exocrine in Tyrannocyte is quite pts consuming. I would suggest using mawlocs, they are cheaper, also attack with large blast, AP2, in addition: ignores cover and may attack invisible units as terror from the deep is not shooting attack.

[justinzilla]

I will try mawlocs again. They just rarely hit where I want them to

[natelicious]

Sept 8, 2015 19:26:49 GMT justinzilla said:

I will try mawlocs again. They just rarely hit where I want them to

Deathleaper's Assassin Brood.

[koldegaard]

First off. I'm playing in a semi-competitive environment. I'm having a tremendous amount of trouble with the Gladius Strike Force. I usually run 3 flyrants and a barbed hierodule at 1850 but the 6 shots at two targets just seems insufficient in taking down all those guys. Flyrants on the other hand gets taken down by tactical-doctrine fueled grav and bolters.

Do we need to play the gladius more defensively or do any of you have a suggestion?

My list usually looks something like this :

CAD:

Flyrant
Flyrant

Mucolid
Mucolid

Venomthrope
Lictor
Lictor

Mawloc

Bastion with Comms

CAD

Flyrant

Mucolid
Mucolid

Lictor

Lictor.