Ork questions - updated w/ 1850 list

[seethe]

I have picked up the new Ork Dex in an attempt to answer my Nids need for anti armor.

Any ork vets that have some suggestions on ork units that are good vs high armor targets?

So far I have bought a unit of lootas

Are the crazy tankbustas any good? And on a side note what are your thoughts on stormboyz(jump infantry if I've got that right)

[WestRider]

I haven't dug into the new Dex that much, but unfortunately, high AVs have historically been a pretty big problem for Orks as well as for Nids. Lootaz will handle anything AV12 or less, and will eventually grind down AV13, but obviously can't touch AV14.

TankBustaz are looking to be good now. Tank Hunter is a very powerful boost, even when they're just trying to glance down AF14. They're very fragile for their cost, tho, as well as being a high-priority target, and really want a Battlewagon to hide in, which eats up the HS slot available in an Allied Detachment.

Stormboyz look good in an Ork Primary Detachment, but as Allies, when they're not going to have access to a Waaagh, it cuts down their potential a bit. Probably not bad, tho, a PK Nob here could help out a bit, especially with stuff like Russes and Ghost Arcs where they don't have high AV all around.

Biker Boss with PK is probably your go-to HQ for this. Tons of S10 AP2 Attacks will put a hurting on a lot of things, and with the Bike, he's T6 so he doesn't have to worry much about Instant Death, and can get where he needs to be. Basically a semi-guided missile, he'll zoom across the field, kill something, and then likely die. The Lucky Stikks can help a bit with reliability, just watch out once you've failed two Re-rolls, and don't go for a third unless failing it will kill you anyhow.

[seethe]

Thanks for the info. Going to read up when I get a chance the next few weeks. If it comes down to it ill likely make a Nid> Ork list and an Ork> Nid and see what I can do.

[mattblowers]

Meganobz destroy heavy armor. Nob bikers with PK are good too. I also love deffkoptas. My son has 15 and they can tear it up, but it's a big point sink and probably won't do that well synergy wise with 'nids. Landraiders will probably be as hard to deal with for Orks as 'nids. Almost any other army is a better choice if you are looking to ally for AV killing power. How about 1 Imperial Knight with MM supergun?

[robomummy]

Jul 10, 2014 5:08:57 GMT seethe said:

I have picked up the new Ork Dex in an attempt to answer my Nids need for anti armor.

Any ork vets that have some suggestions on ork units that are good vs high armor targets?

So far I have bought a unit of lootas

Are the crazy tankbustas any good? And on a side note what are your thoughts on stormboyz(jump infantry if I've got that right)

I always like stormboyz as a sort of surprise unit that, put unit of 10 on the board with a nob and it will either get shot to pieces (and take their shooting off of other units) or charge and probably kill a squad. Give the nob a powerklaw to go tank hunting and drop in behind some vehicles.

As for tankbustas, I never liked them but a unit of 5 in a trukk with bomb squigs and tank hammers can easily cause some trouble for your opponent.

Onto reccomendations, My favorite unit so far is the warboss with mega armor, lucky stikk, and cybork body. THis thing is a beast in CC with a 2+ 6++ rerollable save and the ability to reroll all rolls to hit, rolls to wound, and saves. A close second is the Big Mek with a shokk attack gun, 'eavy armor, and the lucky stikk which makes it almost never miss a shot.

Another good unit is the morkanaut with a unit of 6 burnas (3 upgraded to meks) and grot riggers. This thing is not the best unit for combat or shooting but it is a fire magnet like no other. With the ability to heal up to 4 Hull points per turn your opponent needs to do 5 HP worth of damage in one turn to kill it. Take the upgraded mek tools from the gifts of gork and mork for a 3+ roll to fix the vehicle.

Never upgrade to 'ardboyz for boyz, its not worth the points unless you are taking trukks.

[seethe]

Heh I'm really not interested in an IK.

I think the orks look fun so I'd like to give them a shot.

Hopefully ill get some time to read and number crunch tonight

[seethe]

Well, ive started to cobble a list together. I basically went down the list of needs i feel i cannot live without, and have started adding orks to fill in some gaps.

Total Roster Cost: 1850

HQ: Hive Tyrant
1 Hive Tyrant,TL Devourer w/Brainleech Worms x2, Wings, Electroshock Grubs

HQ: Hive Tyrant
1 Hive Tyrant,TL Devourer w/Brainleech Worms x2, Wings, Electroshock Grubs

Troops: Tyranid Warrior Brood 3
2 Tyranid Warrior
1 Tyranid Warrior, Barbed Strangler

Troops: Tyranid Warrior Brood 3
2 Tyranid Warrior
1 Tyranid Warrior, Barbed Strangler

Heavy Support: Exocrine
1 Exocrine, Adrenal Glands

Fast Attack: 2xHive Crone

HQ: Warboss
1 Warboss (HQ) [Orks], 'Eavy Armour, Attack Squig, Cybork Body, Power Klaw 25, Shoota/Skorcha Kombi-weapon

Troops: Boyz 11
9 Boyz (Troops) [Orks], Stikkbombs 1)
1 Boyz Nob [Orks], 'Eavy Armor, Power Klaw, Big Shoota
1 Trukk Boarding Plank, Grot Rigger, Red Paint Job, Reinforced Ram, Stikkbomb Chukka, Wreckin' Ball ... may have gone overboard on upgrades but they all look cool to me, warboss and boyz will load up in the trukk

Elite: Lootas
8 Lootas

Heavy Support: Deff Dread
1 Deff Dread (Heavy) [Orks], Grot Rigger

Fast Attack: Stormboyz 10
9 Stormboyz
1 Stormboyz Nob [Orks], Bosspole, Power Klaw

For the most part i plan on using the lootas to support my warriors and exocrine in mid/backfield and the stormboys to provide early harassment with the flyrants and crones. the trukk full of boyz will be on a beeline towards whatever target i feel is most threatening, backed up by deff dread...something along those lines anyways.

I still havent got my hands on a 7th rulebook yet, so i am going off of forum posts, and my ork numbers may be a little off, so it probably isnt 1850 exact, but i plan on working from here. at the very least it looks like a fun list to play. a bunch of agressive orks, with my main nids playing more of a guerrila role.

[Kwodd]

Rokkits are huge with the new dex, half the points and you can take them in mass.