Question on Regeneration.

[bolk]

Hello Hive, was wondering if anyone could help clarify the rules on the regen biomorph? In the Codex it states to roll a D6 for each wound suffered, and for every 6 that is rolled a single wound is recovered. That`s fair and square, but when I read in the FAQ I get confused. There it`s asked: when rolling to recover lost wounds, can the model attempt to recover wounds suffered in the battle that have already been regenerated? and A: No. When rolling to regen wounds roll a number of dice equal to the difference between the model`s current number of wounds and its starting number of wounds.
So what I`m unsure is: can you regenerate the wounds of a model indefinitely or only as many times as it has wounnds? For example, can a Carnifex only regen its 4 wounds 4 times max?

[t⊗theark]

What they're saying is say a carnifex gets hit by a Leman Russ and wounds it twice. You roll 2 D6 (one for each wound lost). Say We get a 3 and a 6. The next turn you roll 1D6 because you're missing one wound, not 2D6 because you were wounded twice in the past.

[WestRider]

Or to put it another way, each Turn, you roll one die for each Wound that it's currently missing. So to extend totheark's example, if the Fex then suffered another two Wounds during your opponent's next Turn, you would roll three dice that Turn to see if it Regenerated, because it was currently down by 3 Wounds (4 total suffered, but one had been regenerated).

[Kwodd]

It's all just long speak for never getting above starting wounds.

[bolk]

Ok, that kinda speaks for itself though Because the way the FAQ stated it, it sounded like you can`t regenerate wounds more times than the number of starting wounds the model has. So I can still regenerate wounds indefinitely as long as the model survives It`s an expensive upgrade, but it is priceless when you see your opponents face goes "What the....?" when you regenerate a Trygon back up to full health xD

[coredump]

the confusion you are having is semantics.

When you roll a 6, then a wound is regenerated. Rolling the die is 'trying' to regenerate a wound... so you do not regenerate over and over... you just keep checking over and over....

[bolk]

Semantics huh? Learned a new word today But yes you are right Coredump, that`s my confusion xD So the question in the FAQ is asking if he can regenerate more wounds than the model has in its profile from the start.

[coredump]

correct.

On turn 4, your TFex has 2 wounds left, it will get to roll 4 dice. For each 6 it rolls, it will get 1 wound back.
Things that do not matter:
When it suffered those wounds.
How many wounds it regenerated in previous turns
How many wounds it suffered in previous turns.
How many times you tried to regenerate wound(s) in previous turns

[legendary]

You basically just roll a d6 for each missing wound, and on each role of a 6 it regains 1 wound back.

[bolk]

Yes, thank you for explaining That`s the way I have been playing it all along, but the FAQ made me wonder, and eventually I had to ask

[hivefleetezekial]

The FAQ for that was included to counter claims that unscrupulous players had made (in just about every edition Regen has been abailable in) that the Tyranid unit with Regen could attempt to regenerate lost wounds (up to starting stat) as many times as they had lost wounds throughout the entire game.

Example: Turn 6, Carnifex is down to 1 wound left. It's the owners go and he has the very last turn and wishes to charge the 'fex into a tough unit. Said 'fex has been a prime target all game and has 'suffered' a total of 12 wounds. Owning player then picks up 12 dice, hoping to maximize his chances of getting at least three 6's to pop up, so his 'fex can charge into combat nice and full.

Stupid, yes. But people have tried to claim it. :/

[bolk]

Yup, that`s stupid. And poor sportsmanship :/ I`ll agree that Regen isn`t a superupgrade, but bending rules like that is just childish.

[t⊗theark]

Jul 12, 2013 19:06:23 GMT hivefleetezekial said:

Stupid, yes. But people have tried to claim it. :/

You know dumb people, no offense.

[grarik]

It wouldn't only be people who misinterpreted the rule, in all things you can find people who bend rules to breaking point to get any advantage they can, and selective interpretation is one of the more simplistic methods.

[Davor]

Jul 14, 2013 13:17:50 GMT t⊗theark said:

Jul 12, 2013 19:06:23 GMT hivefleetezekial said:

Stupid, yes. But people have tried to claim it. :/

You know dumb people, no offense.

I don't think it's dumb people, just people who have to cheat with plastic toy soldiers.