Flanking Tervigon

[Jarl]

WHen i flank my tervigon, can i cast a blessing on him as well as spawn gants? reserves arrive before movement phase, so blessing should be alright. but spawning happens before the tervigon moves, so i guess i cant spawn?

[infornography]

outflanking counts as having moved so no, you can't cast blessings or spawn gants the turn you outflank. Still worth it, you just have to play a bit conservatively when you come in.

[Jarl]

but rulebook page 68 says "Blessings are manifested at the start of the Psyker's Movement phase." and "Unless stated otherwise, a unit cannot charge, or use any
abilities or special rules that must be used at the start of the turn, in the turn it arrives from reserve."

[Jarl]

so can not do anything at the start of the turn, but the beginning of movement phase is later i would say

[Lanesend]

Yes but at the start of her movement phase, the tervi is not yet on the board. , so can't cast blessings or maledictions.

[Jarl]

maybe i got it all totally wrong, but as i understood it there is something like a reserve movement on the board that happens AT THE START OF THE TURN. thats not the movement phase because reserve arrives before movement. in fact, i just called my local GW shop for this issue and they said blessing can be done after it arrived; however they had to take a look at the rulebook for themselfes after i asked this so im not sure if i can fully trust into them ...

[chuckles]

Jun 5, 2013 10:14:45 GMT Jarl said:

maybe i got it all totally wrong, but as i understood it there is something like a reserve movement on the board that happens AT THE START OF THE TURN. thats not the movement phase because reserve arrives before movement. in fact, i just called my local GW shop for this issue and they said blessing can be done after it arrived; however they had to take a look at the rulebook for themselfes after i asked this so im not sure if i can fully trust into them ...

GW staff are no more official on rulings than consulting the I Ching...

There is no distinction between the start of the turn and the start of the movement phase. This isn't Magic the Gathering, there is no upkeep step. The start of the movement phase and the start of the turn are the same thing.

[Jabberwocky]

Carry on reading in the BRB and you will see

"psykers arriving from reserve cannot cast blessings or maledictions"

Sorry.

[Jarl]

you got me i played a lot magic ... thx for the rule, i was playing it wrong last game

[coredump]

Lets go back to your question....
"WHen i flank my tervigon, can i cast a blessing on him as well as spawn gants?"

You may not spawn gaunts, that one is easy.

You *may* cast a blessing on the tervigon, assuming a different model is casting it. The Tervigon may not cast any blessings/maledictions; but if you have another model within 24", it could. (assuming it did not come in from reserves, nor moved, this turn.)

[sporesprayer]

what if i move something else? i have to spawn gaunts/cast powers before I start moving models right?

[tylertt]

Jun 8, 2013 20:31:25 GMT sporesprayer said:

what if i move something else? i have to spawn gaunts/cast powers before I start moving models right?

As stated under the spawning Termagaunts rule for the Tervigon, spawn occurs before the Tervigon ITSELF moves. So you are free to move any other models to make room for the spawned gaunts if you need to.

[sporesprayer]

is it the same for casting powers or do those happen before anything moves or before the caster? Ive been playing where powers get cast and tervigons spawn before anything moves (like the same time I would roll for reserves)

[WestRider]

It depends on the powers. Blessings and Maledictions have to be used before anything that's already on the table moves. You can move Reserves on before casting Blessings or Maledictions, but Psykers that have arrived from Reserves this Turn cannot use those Powers.

The Tärvigon just has to Spawn before it moves, other Units can move first.

Some powers from the Codexes can be used at different times. Catalyst, for instance, can be used at any time during the Movement Phase. You'll have to read the individual rules on those.

[commandersasha]

Look out for the exact wording in these cases: if it says "At the beginning of THE movement phase", it is before anything in your army has moved (like blessings).
If it says "At the beginning of ITS movement phase", you can move other models first.