Carnifex: Smash only or toss in some adrenal glands?

[scrotatohead]

I'm curious if it's better to field a Carnifex with adrenal glands or just toss them and use the 10 points for something else. With the glands the 'fex would be hitting on the charge with all normal attacks plus charge and possibly Rage, at S10. It could then use SMASH in the opponent's assault phase if the battle lasts that long, for two S10 hits. Without adrenal glands, SMASH only provides 3 attacks on the charge.

Seems like the 10 points are a worthwhile investment. Am I missing something?

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If you're using a Carnifex for CC you're already burning points so why not? If you are worried about effective point use the Carnifex is a mistake itself. I say take the AG for fun.

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If you're using a Carnifex for CC you're already burning points so why not? If you are worried about effective point use the Carnifex is a mistake itself. I say take the AG for fun.

[scrotatohead]

I honestly have only used a carnifex once in two years of playing the game. In fact most times I've steered away from MC Heavy support, partially out of not having points left by then, and partially out of not want to purchase a Trygon only to have it target prioritied off the board.

I only ask about the 'fex because in an escalation tournament I'm in we've got three IG players, two who will be fielding Aegis Defense Lines and so just castle up at the back of their deployment zone and shoot you as your rumble forward. We also have two players with the Fortress of Redemption. I plan on fielding a brood of ymgarls to make the fortress difficult to control. I'm considering a podded dakkafex as a means of getting a fairly durable tank killer or fortress cracker into my opponent's position quicker and safer than running all of my threats at them.

As has been discussed on so many threads though, other units can do many things so much better than the fex. A Trygon will most likely hit with as many, if not more close combat attacks with Smash vs. a WS3 Carnifex with adrenal glands, and for fewer points. The only advantage the fex has is with the twin linked S6 shooting, which isn't enough to justify the points.

[coredump]

As for your question.... The adrenal glands will only really matter when fighting multi wound T5 models; it will let you ID without Smash.

Even against vehicles you probably want to Smash Attack since you get the die reroll.