burn out question

[kujwa]

played a game last night and it was the 3-4 game where A)rolled horrible majority of time and B)feel like there isn't anything i could have done besides die. really having a hard time trying to figure out how to have a competitive list that isn't cheap. last night's game was a team, we fought against forgefiend, defiler, chaos hq on juggarnaut with black mace, sorcerer with 3 spells, battle fortress with 17 burna boys and big mek in it, dakka jet, 15 lootas on top of a building and lobbas behind a building. i'm getting burnt out because i've faced both of these lists for a month now and get pounded, i leave trying to figure out what i could have done differently and the only input i get from the other club members is i should run a swarm army. that doesn't make sense to me because 4/6 of my troops aren't going to hurt a forgefiend or battle fortress. so after my long winded (sorry) complaining my question is how do you some of you deal with being in an ass kicked rut? it's to the point where i don't want to play the game right now.

[afewveiws]

When i feel like this i typically make a list thats completely different then my standard list and laugh as my opponents struggle to figure out my non-existent strategy.

but if you want to beat them post the list you've been using and im sure people will pick it apart... this will ultimately get the post moved to tactics or list building forum but hey that might be more helpful.

[gigasnail]

give us a list, we can help. be advised that nids have many fun builds but few viable competitive builds. most of them are based around X2 dakka flyrants, X2 termagants and X2 troop tervigons with elites and biovores/dakka fexes depending on what your meta looks like.

[afewveiws]

I believe there to be more competitive builds then Gigasnail says but currently that is by far the most widely accepted and employed competitive list available, and possible the easiest All-comers list to pilot.

[biomassbob]

Agree on what the others have indicated about competitive builds for nids right now. Certainly your meta is a factor in what works, but there is a narrow range of units for competitive games. In my last 5 games with nids I was able to win 3 against a DA deathwing player trying out various lists and got creamed in 2 games vs GK lists. I have decided to stop playing 40k for a while - maybe until the next vanilla SM or nid dex comes out - maybe longer. The game isn't that much fun when often one side is heavily favoured or needs to take a select few units to stand a chance against tougher lists. The increased randomness of 6th, IMO, just adds to the problems. If the game is annoying you - take a break. You may find a resurgence of interest down the road.

[sporesprayer]

you guys could play like 1v1's until each of you have played each other. then figure out how to match for like an elimination round (with match ups based on how many wins/losses you had) and have a championship round. It would take a few sessions of playing each other but it could give you guys new opportunities and mix ups (which is always fun)

[coredump]

The very *best* thing you can do is write up a battle report. Pictures/diagrams help, but are not necessary. The more info you have the better, but we can work with whatever you can remember.

A list of the 4 armies involved would also be helpful; at least yours....


Whats a battle fortress? And why did you go near it?

If you are losing to orks and chaos... we can definitely help you. But we really need more information.

[edjammies]

I think the 'battle fortress' is actually a burna boy deathstar cruising in a battle wagon. If you can't give a battle report, at least post up your army list. No matter what your list is, going up a burna boy death star, defiler, AND lootas will just completely wreck many faces especially for a CC oriented army like tyranids. Just off the top of my head, the only thing that could ruin those armies would be a spore pod centric list with heavy bits of fire power coming in all at once.

[jocke01]

Give us your army list and what your usual tactics and we can help you with ideas and changes.