What happens when a Mawloc lands on an ADL?

[tragik]

Let's say I plan to pop out on top of a unit of scouts that's hugging an ADL and firing a quad gun. I scatter and land directly on top of the ADL, hitting most of the unit of scouts and the gun too.

What would be the result? I know the Mawloc can move otherwise stationary units like a Mycetic Spore, but can't find how it deals with fortifications.

[toonarmy]

Not sure on this one.

Obviously the gun would take hits as well so if it is destroyed, no probs. i would imagine it moves the minimum distance like the spore to be honest.

[Raven]

The ADL is terrain and doesn't move at all, you just deploy on top of it. The quad gun I'm unsure of though.

[ranmafan]

Page 104, BRB: "Unless otherwise noted, battlefield debris is difficult terrain, though elements of other types of terrain may also apply."

Then under page 105 the Gun Emplacement appears, and has no specific rules stating it is anything other than terrain.

So the Mawloc probably ends up blocking the Quad Gun if it Deep Strikes on top of it and doesn't destroy it.

[gigasnail]

the quad gun is just a model with wounds, toughness, and armor save values like any other. it's not terrain.

[fragile]

May 9, 2013 16:25:37 GMT gigasnail said:

the quad gun is just a model with wounds, toughness, and armor save values like any other. it's not terrain.

Technically that is not correct, but seems the best way to play it at times. A gun emplacement is terrain with stats. pg 104.

[gigasnail]

after reading the whole section, i guess it *is* terrain? it never says specifically in the description that it's not terrain. so, i have no idea how it would react with TftD. don't see why it couldn't just move it out of the way, like other models since you can do the same w/ spores and drop pods.

[ranmafan]

That would make the most sense.

[angelwing]

I had my mawloc scatter onto a bastion recently. We assumed that as it's basically an immobile vehicle, it can't get out of the way and would be destroyed. I'll admit this was also an easier result as the table was pretty packed around this area and would have been a pain to move everything about.

[Raven]

Scattering onto a bastion would be impassable terrain (unless you managed to perfectly make it onto the battlements) so you'd mishap.

[coredump]

Do you have a page for that rule?

[WestRider]

It's based on an answer on Pg.8 of the latest Main Rulebook FAQ. It says that a Unit can only Deep Strike onto the Battlements of a Building if the entire Unit can fit up there. It's not entirely clear if it would apply to a single Model that ends up partially on there (the example is of a multi-Model Unit that ends up split between the Battlements and ground, and thus out of Coherency), but it looks to me like it applies.

[coredump]

Yeah, I can see that, but there are also enough differences to matter. The mawloc damages what it comes upon, Mawloc moves things out of its way, etc.

Luckily, I don't know anyone that uses a Mawloc, and hardly anyone using a Bastion; so no worries.

[Nightmare20]

Wouldnt the mawloc just end up on top if it can be placed?

[WestRider]

I believe the Mawloc's base is larger than the top of a Bastion. Which would be where the issue would arise.