Warmachine anyone?

[DukeMantis]

So i recently decided to give Warmachine a try, dont know if anyone here on the hive plays it... but if there is anyone id be intrigued to hear about it.

Im super noobish at it as i have never played a tabletop battlegame that wasnt produced by GW, learning a totally new game has thrown me for a loop but it IS alot of fun. Also its cheaper than GW overall.

So does anyone play? Anyone interested in playing? Any hidden veterans out there got advice for a newbie Cygnar player?

Cheers

[mantisstalker]

This has been asked before but I'll take the bait. I'm not really that great when it comes to the game as I play more for fun than anything but I know a trick or two from the people I play with.

Its been a while but I have about +160 points worth of Cygnar shootieness. If you want advice it really depends on how you want to play, I often use quite a few shooty jacks (I have no less than 5 hunters) along with gun mages to push the enemy around a bit. Their not that nasty on their own but if you combo them with dead eye, snipe and brutal critical then they hit hard. Other than that I use a couple of beat stick jacks such as the iron or thunder clad to keep the enemy melee's away along with an infantry screen of storm blades or sword knights.

Now this probably won't do you much good against the more pro players (which are most people that play) but in casual games it gives people a run for their money. I would like to add however that I've found WM is a power gamers sport, so unless you want to be in the deep end day one I would suggest sicking to playing with friends until you can use your force relatively well.

But other than that have fun playing it and keep away from them nasty undead and Circle players!

[FTGTEvan]

I'm in a similar boat to you dukemantis; I'm just getting into the game, so I can't exactly offer advice. The rules are definitely interesting, and while I appreciate the clarity they usually have, the rulebook seems painfully repetitive at times. Anyway, good luck finding players in your area! Thanks for posting this up, I'll continue to stalk it for good input like mantisstalker's.

[mantisstalker]

Good input?

I'm sure there is more than one WM player reading this and slowing shaking their heads at me. But hey I casual game, I'm not in it to beat everyone.

[Psychichobo]

To be fair, Warhahordes's biggest plus for me was that the difference between an uber-tourney list and a noob list wasn't particularly great, unlike Warhammer. It really is that heavily focused on player skill. So don't worry too much about lists.

Some advice I'll give - if you ever fight a Hordes list, remember that Warbeasts are BETTER than Warjacks, period. They retain full capacity more or less until death. All lists in Warmachine and Hordes are balanced out though, and Warmachine infantry are often very effective compared to Hordes units. But if you fight a warbeast - try to drop it in one go, or hurt it so badly that their Warlock might be wary about trying to spend precious Fury on healing it.

[ksp]

I play it quite regularly, for a while it replaced 40k as my main game. It can be a bit daunting to learn at first but its very very easy to pick up, it's getting good at the game that's difficult. Turns out i'm not bad at it and I found it improved my 40k game aswell.
It is a bit power gamey at times but you can play it for funsies. Infact I do that myself quite regularly

[mantisstalker]

Had a 35 point game on the weekend more for the funnies then anything but here's my list.

Epic Stryker
Stormwall (borrowed)
2X Storm striders
Arlan Strangewayes
3X storm callers

Of coarse he was playing his damned menoth force so he stopped me from shooting his jacks for most of the game but when he switched to battle hymn I decimated half his jacks in one turn. Eventually the game came down to an epic assassination by Styker where even though he half killed himself rolled three six's on his overload and became P+S 33 which ended up ripping apart two crusaders in two hits before one shotting his caster.

It was cheesy but we couldn't stop laughing.

[Aux]

I play quite a bit of circle lately as I've been watching my Tyranids gather dust and lending them to friends.

I've lost around 30/40 games I've played. Still getting used to it

[robomummy]

looked at it and have a freind who plays, Im not a huge fan of the models though. Also the two people who play at my LGS actively talk about how much they hate GW and look down on 40k and fantasy players making them very unpleasent to be around.

[infornography]

I played some Warmachine. Khador. It is a decent enough game. Very focused on tactics where my preference is to focus on Strategy and list building. List building is all but nonexistent in Warmachine. An individual unit has 2 builds. Full strength and half strength. If even that much. It is easy to throw a list together just before a game. Unfortunately tweaking an intricate and well tuned list is what I love most about Warhammer and designing well tuned individual units is what I loved about Battletech. Warmachine just doesn't scratch my itch. It is a better supported game though with MUCH better balance both internal and external.

[blindmage]

I have a few friends trying to get me into Warmachine, but I'm loath to start spending more money. Can GW minis sub in well?

[Overread]

I'd suggest asking one of the local players if you can play with their army/one of their armies a few times to get the hang of it and see if you like it.

Otherwise you can proxy - if you know the stats of the models mostly all you need is the right base size to represent it in the game itself (though of course its just not the same experience without the proper looking models)

[Psychichobo]

Be warned though - it can be a bit intimidating at first, with the rule that if the Warcaster/Warlock dies it's literally game over. A lot of people panic and stop playing upon hearing this, but it's really a very simple rule to work with.

To start with, pick a caster/lock who can stay back and buff. They're the best to start with. Combat ones are dangerously difficult to use. And constantly keep your eye open for any avenues that your opponent might use to kill your caster, and for any opportunities for you to kill theirs. Maybe don't play full on games first, just experiment with basic rules.

[Geneva]

I have 35 points of Protectorate of Menoth. Not many people to play against though. There was a wave of interest where I live for about 6 months and then everyone went back to Warhammer. I haven't had much time for wargames recently anyway though.

[queek]

Apr 15, 2013 18:03:09 GMT Psychichobo said:

To be fair, Warhahordes's biggest plus for me was that the difference between an uber-tourney list and a noob list wasn't particularly great, unlike Warhammer. It really is that heavily focused on player skill. So don't worry too much about lists.

Some advice I'll give - if you ever fight a Hordes list, remember that Warbeasts are BETTER than Warjacks, period. They retain full capacity more or less until death. All lists in Warmachine and Hordes are balanced out though, and Warmachine infantry are often very effective compared to Hordes units. But if you fight a warbeast - try to drop it in one go, or hurt it so badly that their Warlock might be wary about trying to spend precious Fury on healing it.

i do not agree with the warmachine infantry often being very effective compared to hordes units at all... it is about even. also the horde player DO NOT want to make their beast go mental and potentially kill yourself, or just end up in a bad position.
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eHailey op i play Skorne and Mercenaries my fav army is my Merc's with Montador as caster nasty nasty galleon combo!

as for proxy. it ain't the same base sizes as warhammer or WH:40k the bases are either slighty bigger og sligtly smaller

as for cygnar, together with the mercenaries they have the best collosals in the game and it is deffinately worth taking a look at don't overdo with jacks! too many jacks is bad mkay not enough focus to run them around.

get gun mages. nasty buggers. use them for shooting units out of shield walls (by pushing them) or just make them rape anything basically.

the most important part is to pick up a warcaster, and then making an army around him. look at he's abilities and such.

next advice: have fun and post some army lists online to get some feedback it really helps