750/1000 pt Army seeking advice

[freakman13]

HQ
Tervigon – Cluster Spines/Toxin Sacs 170

Elite
Doom of Malan’tai – 90 Transport - 40
Hive Guard x3 - 150

Troop
Termagant x10 - 50
Tervigon – Adrenal Glands/Catalyst/Scything talons – 190

Fast Attack
Gargoyle x 10 - 60

750 Points

HQ
Hive Tyrant - Wings/Brainleach Devourer - 255
Paroxym/Leach Essence

Troop
Tervigon loses Scything Talons


1000 Points

Any advice on my 750/1000 pt army? I normally play purge the alien, however I may be getting into other game types soon. I'm new to the Nids (hence the low points amounts) and would love your help. Thanks

[FTGTEvan]

The list looks fairly solid. Purge the Alien is not your friend in this case - your list will do very well in objective based games, but your spawning could give away a lot of points in Kill Point games.

The gargoyles are a little small, particularly at 1k. I've run 10 frequently at 1k and they give up First Blood fairly often. Dropping them would give you room for a second troop Termagant squad so you could move the HQ terv to Troops at 1k. I might also drop a Hive Guard to give your Tervigons more powers and/or Crushing Claws. Claws turn them into pretty reliable CC monsters for smashing tanks, dreads, and enemy ICs

If you wanted, you could also drop the gargoyles and the more upgraded Tervigon and bring the flyrant at 750, though your friends might not like it. Your list has a good bit of flexibility, though I might hold off on the Gargoyles until you get a second box to up their numbers, though you don't need to rush to do so either.

[freakman13]

Dropping the Gargoyles would let me move the tervigon down and also give both scything claws. That could be a good improvement though my gargoyles ate so many units at 750 that they more than paid for themselves, I thought that would transfer to 1000. I'll try it both ways and see which works better for me.

[FTGTEvan]

It's definitely possible, and I think they're less likely to suffer at 750 than at 1k. At the same time, it depends on how you use them. I often use them as a first turn screen for the flyrant and running screen for hormagaunts, so I'm not protecting them much. If you keep them out of the line of fire even a little bit, then they can be effective at this point level. So, tweak it, play around with it, see what works for you.

Dropping a hive guard could also allow you to move the HQ Terv to troops at 1k, and at that point level, you might find you can get away with only 2 HG as your ranged anti-armor.

[freakman13]

The IG/Sisters guy fields 2 LR vehicles, the necron runs 2 annihilation barges, and the orkz runs their mekz. I think that requires all 6 shots, but I'm new to the Nids, so what do you suggest? I currently use the gargoyles as a quick fly-by kill of their basic troops.

[FTGTEvan]

That's a decent amount of Mech at that level, so if you think you need the extra shots, take 'em. I prefer Zoans for my anti-armor, but that's a personal preference. Other people on here swear by Hive Guard and they're definitely good. Like I said originally, the list looks solid in my eyes. I was more letting you know some things to keep in mind - keep an eye on, and maybe tweak as you go. Definitely try out that original list and see how it goes - if it works for you then it works. Good gaming!

[freakman13]

It has 3/0/0 so far, IG/SoB I destroyed, da Orkz killed a tevigon but fell, and the SoB army killed my Doom and hive guards. Of course I lost the gargoyles every time, and a lot of termagants, but... every game I had annihilation by turn 5. I'm working on getting them more than base coated atm, since this seems to be a good take all comers for my group. I'm painting them up as Hive Fleet 'Murk'a (America) with a red, white, and blue color scheme. We generally do "casual" tournament, so no tweaking our list in between battles with people, but we can tweak between tournaments. Thanks for the advice, hopefully we go to higher point values for me to get use out of it more. Hopefully I'll be able to take down that new Tau codex bs with this list, one guy just grabbed it.