Black Templar Casual! :O

[Nightmare20]

Decided to dip into a MEQ army and always loved the fluff and style of Black Templars. I know their codex is old as sin but what can I say, I love underdogs.

Any advice is appreciated but keep in mind I'm not looking to win any tournaments. This army is more of a fun alternative to give me and my opponents some variety seeing as I'm almost undefeated with my Tyranids and some of the players at my local hobby store are getting ornery.

2000 Points Black Templar:

HQ:
Marshal Captain - 135
Storm Shield
Power Sword
Terminator Armor

Marshal Captain's Command Squad
(1 Sergeant and 3 Terminators) - 230
2x Cyclone Missile Launchers
5x Tank Hunter
Chain Fist (Sergeant)

Reclusiarch Chaplain- 140
Power Axe
Terminator Armor
Teleport Homer

Emperor's Champion – 110
Abhor the Witch, Destroy the Witch

Elites:
Venerable Dreadnought – 189
Twin-linked Lascannon
Tank Hunter
Drop Pod
Searchlights
Smoke Launcher

Assault Terminators - 469
5x TH/SS
Land Raider Crusader dedicated transport with Searchlight and Smoke Launchers

Troops:
Crusader Squad - 513
Initiates x 10 with Krak Grenades, CC Weapons, and 1 Powerfist
Neophytes x 4 with Bolt Pistols and Chain Swords
Land Raider Crusader dedicated transport with Searchlight and Smoke Launchers

Crusader Squad - 106
Initiates x 5 with Frag Grenades
Lascannon
Plasma Gun

Crusader Squad - 106
Initiates x 5 with Frag Grenades
Lascannon
Plasma Gun

Total: 1998

Marshal and Command Squad deepstrike somewhere behind cover or on top of the Chaplain with Homer and take potshots with the cyclone ML, while Marshal takes the hits with his SS.

Reclusiarch attaches to Assault Terminators in Land Raider and takes a flank, making them Fearless and reroll misses.

Emperor's Champion and Crusader Squad in Land Raider take second flank, emperor takes any challenges and the rest break faces in a mad rush with bolt pistols and cc weapons or rapid fire barrage.

Dreadnought drops in first turn at half-way point and kills the biggest mech threat with twin-linked "Tank Hunter" Lascannon. Being Venerable I'm hoping he can either stick around or act as a distraction long enough for the LRC's to get across the board.

Also not sure about the Power Axe but I figured getting that extra +1A was good for the Chaplain as his Termie Armor gives him a +1 for a grand total of 6 S5 attacks on the charge (3 base, +1 two CC, +1 Termie Honors, +1 Charge).

The 2 small Las/Plas Squads take up the rear using the LRC's as distraction/cover and take heavy weapon shots at incoming mech and hard targets while babysitting objectives.

With 3 Lascannons, 2 Plasma Guns, 2 Multimeltas, 2 Cyclone ML, and the Thunderhammers I figure I have enough high S, Low AP weapons to at least give the army a fighting chance.

[Nightmare20]

Bump? No one familiar with Black Templar or just no input? I know the casual lists tend to get less feedback but I would like a little.

[snowdaman]

The only thing i know about black templars is that they can't take psykers and there is a guy in my area who use to play them with tonnes of las cannons and a th/ss termy star lol

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[gigasnail]

think about what you'd do to this list with nids. there are only 3 scoring units, and two of them are MSU to the max, all on their lonesome with no vehicles. the two terminator squads and all those HQ are rock hard bastards, sure. they (along with the dread) can also be tarpitted and forgotten about after they kill your troops.

[Nightmare20]

I see what you mean. If my opponent uses target priority and focus fires my troops down I'm in a world of hurt. I planned on keeping the MSU squads in the far back, preferably in cover, on objectives while I shove my blob of angry marines in my opponents best objective but I'm not sure it will be enough. Do you figure 3 HQ, 2 LRC, and 2 squads of Terminators is too much? I'm having real troubles figuring out what to cut. Being able to fire 14 shots and charge out of my LRC for 42-46 attacks seems really game changing for a scoring unit. The other thing is for 35 points I can give my 3 wound marshal EW, and considering he gives my whole army Ld10 I really don't want him to get instagibbed by a stray rocket or lascannon...

[gigasnail]

i'm not sure what to tell you with this list, or BT in general. the codex is showing its age, for sure. i have a friend that plays them but without much sucess.

realize you have a lot of points tied up in the 3 HQ, the terms, and two LR. that is going to limit your bodies on the ground options. if you're going to bring two terminator units and two LR, put them both in LR so you can deliver them and their killy HQ to where they need to go. i'd still want more bodies in the two smaller squads; 5 seems kind of fragile and is asking to get smoked.

also if you're podding the dread, consider MM and CCW w/ heavy flamer instead of the TL las. it'll kill vehicles a alot better and have the option of podding next to a weapons team/scoring unit in cover and lighting them up.